CNN interviews Jake Shields about his conversations with the KKK and White Supremacists

I'm sure a CNN program called "Misinfo Nation" is going to give a fair and unbiased platform for Jake here. :rolleyes:

It really amazes me how many so-called adults are terrified of free speech in a nation where that principle is 1st and foremost in the Bill of Rights.
Why would Jake agree to go on a program called "Misinfo Nation"?
 
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This country is becoming a little frightening.
 
Maybe we disagree that a vote for Trump was a vote for fascism? I certainly did not vote for fascism. And as far as I can tell, I still live in a constitutional republic…..
for what it's worth, i believe you. i don't think you're lying about this.

but you did, in fact, vote for a fascist, even if you don't realize it. whether or not he succeeds in his agenda is yet to be seen, but so far he's seemed pretty unstoppable.

But hate away. At half your fellow Americans….
i'm not american. but this is pretty ironic, considering the absurd tribalism of MAGA.
 
Can't tell if Jake Shields is just grifting on the right wing racism angle for money. Or if he just has CTE and believes all this shit.
 
Nazis were socialists.
This little phrase here is a fantastic way of cutting through the ambiguity and letting everyone know very clearly, very decisively, that you are a total moron.

Nazis were in no way shape or form socialist. They used the word socialist to try and generate broad support for their party, in the same way they used a modified swastika, which represented universalist themes like harmony and rebirth and sun-worship.

Were the nazis a socialist party concerned with sun worship, interconnectedness of beings and reincarnation? Obviously not, but the purpose of coopting these icons and terms was to fleece the masses in 1930s Germany.

And here, 90 years later, despite the benefit of history and billions of words of historical analysis, it's clearly worked on you.
 
wtf is shields doing? Sounds a lot like he has been taken by “white nationalism”.. I put in that quotes cause I think that race is a smear and a perception more than any actual thing by which people can really be adequately categorized.

What a fucking ugly thing to do. Fuck you, Jake shields.
So you think it's ugly to support nation states tied to ethnic identity? Groups like having autonomy and nation states seem to be the best way to achieve that. Certainly it's a highly pervasive pattern of human civilization.
 
So you think it's ugly to support nation states tied to ethnic identity? Groups like having autonomy and nation states seem to be the best way to achieve that. Certainly it's a highly pervasive pattern of human civilization.
I think that’s unconscionably foolish. Ethnic identity is perception. We are all migrational mixed people. It only takes two generations to change that perception of race from being seeing from one seeming certainty to another.

It’s a very dangerous separatist idea to promote racial identity. It is a construct of racist propaganda.
 
I think that’s unconscionably foolish. Ethnic identity is perception. We are all migrational mixed people. It only takes two generations to change that perception of race from being seeing from one seeming certainty to another.

It’s a very dangerous separatist idea to promote racial identity. It is a construct of racist propaganda.
All identity is perception of course, it doesn't make it any less meaningful to the vast majority of humanity who find their identity to be deeply important. Identity might change in an instant, or it might endure for millennia, but regardless it's a fundamental part of mankind. Trying to ignore that is what created Yugoslavia, and a ton of modern countries which are wartorn for decades because people are denied ethnic sovereignty.
 
All identity is perception of course, it doesn't make it any less meaningful to the vast majority of humanity who find their identity to be deeply important. Identity might change in an instant, or it might endure for millennia, but regardless it's a fundamental part of mankind. Trying to ignore that is what created Yugoslavia, and a ton of modern countries which are wartorn for decades because people are denied ethnic sovereignty.
That’s interesting. I’m not a lawmaker but avoid people who think they’re a representative of a people in general. I’m interested in individuals not groupthink ideologists.

I’m gonna add you to my ignore list tho, not because you have been rude in any way, but I just don’t have any desire to discuss ethnic sovereignty with someone advocating for it to me on a karate forum.
 
That’s interesting. I’m not a lawmaker but avoid people who think they’re a representative of a people in general. I’m interested in individuals not groupthink ideologists.

I’m gonna add you to my ignore list tho, not because you have been rude in any way, but I just don’t have any desire to discuss ethnic sovereignty with someone advocating for it to me on a karate forum.
Sure. Personally I enjoy different perspectives and tend to think forum frequenters would agree, but I know it's not everyone's cup of tea. Happy posting.
 
lol.

I had 2 choices for president and I was clear that was voting for the candidate I found slightly more preferable, reluctantly. I found both candidates to be poor candidates and have big issues with both parties.

And here you are trying to make sweeping generalizations. Some of you act psychotically on this topic. You probably ended friendships and family relationships based on who someone voted for.
You put the love of money ahead of the welfare of hundreds of millions of people.
for what it's worth, i believe you. i don't think you're lying about this.

but you did, in fact, vote for a fascist, even if you don't realize it. whether or not he succeeds in his agenda is yet to be seen, but so far he's seemed pretty unstoppable.


i'm not american. but this is pretty ironic, considering the absurd tribalism of MAGA.
Of course, he realises it.
 
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