CNN interviews Jake Shields about his conversations with the KKK and White Supremacists

[evergreenrider]

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

Nazis were socialists. They were politically left.

nazis were literally the most far-right government in human history lmao

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

Those "semetics" did 9/11. Retard

wait you think jews did 9/11? lmao

 

[Loiosh]

Small quibble... Democrats (Douglous 'Duck' Henry) and sons of confederate veterans put that bust in the state capital in the late 70s.

Why didn't you capitalize Sons of Confederate Veterans? They're a neo-confederate lost cause organization. Are you suggesting actual sons of veterans installed the bust so it should have remained out of respect?

And Douglas Henry spent a year in the senate in 1927. He was a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, and supported the lost cause. Why bother mentioning he was a Democrat considering when he served?

 

[AWilder]

Yet nearly all of the national spelling bee winners in the last 20 years were home schooled.

Good for them

 

[kflo]

Didn't you vote for Trump?

The same Trump that had a personal dinner with Nick Fuentes, self admitted white supremacist?

The same Trump that admitted there were "very fine people" in a group of White Nationalist marchers?

The same Trump that David Duke enthusiastically endorsed?

You obviously showed your support for these people in an effort to enforce your own brand of bigotry in the ME, so excuse me if your complaints about intolerance rings hollow.

Now re-read your very last sentence and this time listen real closely for the irony.

lol.

I had 2 choices for president and I was clear that was voting for the candidate I found slightly more preferable, reluctantly. I found both candidates to be poor candidates and have big issues with both parties.

And here you are trying to make sweeping generalizations. Some of you act psychotically on this topic. You probably ended friendships and family relationships based on who someone voted for.

 

[randomg1t]

Some of you act psychotically on this topic. You probably ended friendships and family relationships based on who someone voted for.

i don't see how this could be controversial.

when someone tells me they voted for a fascist, why wouldn't i end the relationship? it's not a disagreement on what kind of topping goes on a pizza. we disagree on fundamental views as people.

acting as if political views are just a personal preference with no consequences is weird to me.

 

[HereticBD]

i don't see how this could be controversial.

when someone tells me they voted for a fascist, why wouldn't i end the relationship? it's not a disagreement on what kind of topping goes on a pizza. we disagree on fundamental views as people.

acting as if political views are just a personal preference with no consequences is weird to me.

In other words, you are one of those psychos who will cut friends and family off over politics. LOL.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

Why didn't you capitalize Sons of Confederate Veterans? They're a neo-confederate lost cause organization. Are you suggesting actual sons of veterans installed the bust so it should have remained out of respect?

And Douglas Henry spent a year in the senate in 1927. He was a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, and supported the lost cause. Why bother mentioning he was a Democrat considering when he served?

Because it's a message board and not a term paper. And I'd think most of them were grandsons of vets, but some may have been sons. Also, not suggesting it should have been left at all.

Because he was a democrat and democrats controlled the state legislature when the bust was placed there - in fact they controlled the legislature until 2007.

 

[Loiosh]

Because it's a message board and not a term paper. And I'd think most of them were grandsons of vets, but some may have been sons. Also, not suggesting it should have been left at all.

Because he was a democrat and democrats controlled the state legislature when the bust was placed there.

You had a quibble, maybe clarify what it was.

You said the bust was put up by a neo-confederate organization.

How is that a quibble with what I had posted?

You even said the bust went up in the seventies, which suggests it didn't have historical weight.

 

[randomg1t]

In other words, you are one of those psychos who will cut friends and family off over politics. LOL.

well i see it as cutting off psychos who can't think of anyone but themselves, but sure, frame it any way you want.

oh and just to clarify, i haven't actually cut anyone off over politics. none of my friends or family are idiots, so there's been no need yet.

 

[Loiosh]

Because he was a democrat and democrats controlled the state legislature when the bust was placed there - in fact they controlled the legislature until 2007.

He was a Democrat in the 1920's for one year in the Jim Crow south, before the party switch.

The bust went up in the seventies.

 

[kflo]

i don't see how this could be controversial.

when someone tells me they voted for a fascist, why wouldn't i end the relationship? it's not a disagreement on what kind of topping goes on a pizza. we disagree on fundamental views as people.

acting as if political views are just a personal preference with no consequences is weird to me.

Maybe we disagree that a vote for Trump was a vote for fascism? I certainly did not vote for fascism. And as far as I can tell, I still live in a constitutional republic…..

But hate away. At half your fellow Americans….

 

[PainIsLIfe]

You had a quibble, maybe clarify what it was.

You said the bust was put up by a neo-confederate organization.

How is that a quibble with what I had posted?

You even said the bust went up in the seventies, which suggests it didn't have historical weight.

My quibble was that you made it sound like Republicans put it and kept it there:

"It was protested immediately. Someone damaged the bust, which resulted in cross burnings in Tennessee, including one in front of the Tennessee NAACP. The GOP went to great lengths to keep the bust in the Capitol, including the firing of a commission that ruled to remove it."

You didn't mention that democrats controlled the legislature from the time the bust was placed through 2007.

I thought you would know that dems controlled the legislature in the 70s, 80s, 90s, and 00's. I mean they only had 30 years to remove the thing that they placed there, but you only mention the gop. Almost as if you were spinning a narative

 

[PainIsLIfe]

He was a Democrat in the 1920's for one year in the Jim Crow south, before the party switch.

The bust went up in the seventies.

He was a democrat his entire life. The bust went up in the 70s with a democrat led state legislature and democrat governor. The bust was removed with a republican led state legislature and a republican governor - not that they all favored getting rid of the thing,

And please stop with the both sides switched parties. Robert Byrd didn't; none of the Kennedy's, Jerry Brown didn't, George Wallace died a registered democrat. Which republicans do you think jumped at the chance to join the KKK democrats after every republican in Congress voted for the civil rights act?

 

[Loiosh]

My quibble was that you made it sound like Republicans put it and kept it there:

"It was protested immediately. Someone damaged the bust, which resulted in cross burnings in Tennessee, including one in front of the Tennessee NAACP. The GOP went to great lengths to keep the bust in the Capitol, including the firing of a commission that ruled to remove it."

You didn't mention that democrats controlled the legislature from the time the bust was placed through 2007.

I thought you would know that dems controlled the legislature in the 70s, 80s, 90s, and 00's. I mean they only had 30 years to remove the thing that they placed there, but you only mention the gop. Almost as if you were spinning a narative

Everything I said was true and the timing doesn't change that.

The MODERN GOP defended keeping the bust in the capitol and fired the commission that determined it should be removed.

Yes, Douglas Henry was a Democrat but he was a member of a neo-confederate group and believer of the lost cause. It seems like you can't find success in the south unless you cater to profound racism; the Clintons have both drawn criticisms due to their questionable associations.

 

[Loiosh]

He was a democrat his entire life. The bust went up in the 70s with a democrat led state legislature and democrat governor. The bust was removed with a republican led state legislature and a republican governor - not that they all favored getting rid of the thing,

And please stop with the both sides switched parties. Robert Byrd didn't; none of the Kennedy's, Jerry Brown didn't, George Wallace died a registered democrat. Which republicans do you think jumped at the chance to join the KKK democrats after every republican in Congress voted for the civil rights act?

You're right, I forgot who he was and how long he served.

And no, both sides didn't switch, it was a long gradual process that was mostly geographical.

 

[AmonTobin]

Unless these KKK's or neonazi's are disclosing important info pertaining to criminal investigations, I'm not sure of what use their conversations would be.

Honestly, yep.

Whenever I get mad at something, its MY decision to get mad. Anyone can ask why and I'll give an explanation, but it doesnt excuse my decision to be triggered.

Otherwise, folks getting triggered at certain words declare they have no self control.

Not caring about something that other people do care about, doesn't mean you're more even-tempered than anyone else. And your decisions actually are influenced by your emotions more than you may care to admit.

It is possible to be invested in things like justice, ethics, transgressions, and controversy on an intellectual basis alone.

 

[LeonardoBjj]

- I used to like Shields. But dude felt on a rabitt hole.

 

[Big Nasty Edison]

if neonazis and the fucking klan don't warrant getting triggered, what does?

Football players kneeling, tan suits, evolution being taught in science class, WAP by cardi b, Obama playing basketball, black kids walking with iced tea, etc