Clearing up some terms: dodging vs flinching

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There's been some misconceptions so I will clear them up for y'all with technical terms and definitions.

  • Dodging: when something with a likely chance of hitting you comes at you and you respond and move away
  • Flinching: when something with none to little chance of hitting you comes at you and you respond and move away
It's kind of like HS for the Sherdogger, you know, when you were walking down the hall way and someone lifted their hand up for a high five and you ducked down. That's flinching. The reason this was flinching is they were so far apart Diaz could not have hit him. And no fighters do not flinch. Walk up to a fighter at a bar and he'll be the last guy to respond to movement. They're trained and unless your first is 6" from their face they wont move because they know its unlikely you will hit them and even if you do cross into the too close range, they have the reflexes to dodge or shrug off the hit.

This doesn't mean Conor will lose. But it is highly likely his nerves are very high and it is a bad sign.
This is also the first fight Conor wasn't larger than the fellow so he may not be used to a larger, calmer man not reacting to his bullying.​
 
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Conor flinched. It's cool. It's just.... Nate was really far away and he flinched hard anyway, and moved backwards. He'll still win tomorrow. It was just funny.
 
Do we know it wasn't a twitch??? Because a twitch is far, far different than a dodge OR a flinch.

I think it was a twitch, which is BAD NEWS for Nate. Very bad news.
 
Oh its a dodge when Conor flinches.... ok got it. Puuuhhhh lease dude.
 
ya but if anyone who fought connor flinched like that you'd say he's shook and scared and wants a sex change operation to protect him from the incredible stress and pressure of being a man. It's only strategic and intelligent cuz your boy did it.

....But in all seriousness thats just connors style dude trains that step back counter left nonstop its his bread and butter so regardless hes gonna give that reaction, you're not wrong. I am interested in how he's gonna cope with Diaz not biting on all his bully tactics. Historically speaking bully fighters dont cope well when they cant use fear as their advantage. I think Connor is probably a lot tougher than that mentally but you never know. The reach and size of Diaz might give him a shot to make the fight interesting I think the drama alone in this fight is setting it up to be potentially great entertainment.
 
MEAN357 said:
ya but if anyone who fought connor flinched like that you'd say he's shook and scared and wants a sex change operation to protect him from the incredible stress and pressure of being a man. It's only strategic and intelligent cuz your boy did it.

....But in all seriousness thats just connors style dude trains that step back counter left nonstop its his bread and butter so regardless hes gonna gave that reaction, you're not wrong. I am interested in how he's gonna cope with Diaz not biting on all his bully tactics. Historically speaking bully fighters dont cope well when they cant use fear as their advantage. I think Connor is probably a lot tougher than that mentally but you never know. I think the drama alone in this fight is setting it up to be potentially great entertainment.
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Can you fuck&$& read, I said Conor flinched, I was agreeing and arguing w ppl saying he didn't

FuC$&$$ Sherdog, I was saying HE FLINCHED and half the responses are arguing with me that he did
 
WarKO said:
Can you fuck&$& read, I said Conor flinched, I was agreeing and arguing w ppl saying he didn't

FuC$&$$ Sherdog, I was saying HE FLINCHED and half the responses are arguing with me that he did
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Yea I was just kinda being a dick...thats why I said in all seriousness when i actually started saying anything reasonable, the likes of which we seem to agree on bruhbruh :D
the second part of my post was more of an actual response to your thread, I dont think it means connors gonna lose necesarrily either but he's definitely feeling the pressure of this one more so than any of his other fights. this has the makings of a good scrap
 
I think everyone misread your op, but yeah conor flinched and I laughed
 
The difference between flinching and dodging is whether or not you like the fighter that did it.
 
MEAN357 said:
Yea I was just kinda being a dick...thats why I said in all seriousness when i actually started saying anything reasonable, the likes of which we seem to agree on bruhbruh :D
the second part of my post was more of an actual response to your thread, I dont think it means connors gonna lose necesarrily either but he's definitely feeling the pressure of this one more so than any of his other fights. this has the makings of a good scrap
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Well you said Diaz doesn't do well when fighters don't respond to his bullying but it seems to be getting into McGregors head already.

That and Diaz doesn't do well when fighter won't box and kick him. Problem is that nice long knee Diaz will leave out for Conor to kick.

Then again, I'm sure he's aware of that as a weakness by now and that's really Conors best bet unless he's got some other crazy moves planned.​
 
WarKO said:
Well you said Diaz doesn't do well when fighters don't respond to his bullying but it seems to be getting into McGregors head already.

That and Diaz doesn't do well when fighter won't box and kick him. Problem is that nice long knee Diaz will leave out for Conor to kick.

Then again, I'm sure he's aware of that as a weakness by now and that's really Conors best bet unless he's got some other crazy moves planned.​
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Nah. Didnt say that at all, you misread. I said Connors the bully and historically speaking bulyl fighters dont do well when they cant use that as their advantage to shake their opponent. Im wondering how Connor will cope without having that mental edge for once, because looking at a boatload of similar egomaniac fighters from various combat sports they dont fair well mentally without that edge.
I meant it more like "will connors inability to get inside diaz head affect connor negatively in the fight" to put it in simple terms. We're already seeing glimpses of it affecting Connor, but who knows. I think theres a lot of circumstances leading to this being an interesting and fun fight, Im starting to get the feeling that Diaz will make it competitive.

Connor just might have a real test infront of em in Diaz cardio holds up against the likely barrage of spinning shit flying at him lol I dont recall McG having really good leg kicks, honestly dont really rememver seeing him kick other than spinning shit, So idk if he'll target Diaz legs...tho he prolly should
 
I loved how he flinched/dodged/scurred with that! That was the best part of the weigh ins
 
It's fucking normal to flinch when someone jumps at you....

People read way to much into shit like that.
 
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