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[Killhippies]

First off, Canada has a fraction of the population of the US and has essentially surrendered the entire responsibility for it's national protection to the US. So they don't have to fund defense like so many other nations under the US umbrella. That must be nice. It's hard to find Canadians who are satisfied when you actually talk to them. Most of them bitch non-stop about their health care system. Everyone who can afford it comes here for treatment. And the best Canadian doctors come here too to get paid. It's not a perfect system, but it's not the nightmare people abroad have this idea of. People aren't left to die at hospital doors. The federal govt is too incompetent to run health care.

I live in upstate NY and most Canadians I have talked to prefer their system to ours. That is anecdotal evidence though so it's all moot he-said, she-said - that why I prefer using surveys or studies.

You're right people in the US don't die at the hospital doors, they die at home because they can't afford care. 45,000 deaths due to not being able to obtain the care. There are still deaths in the Canadian system due to wait times, but no where near to just plain dying because you can't get care.

 

[Garnet_StrongerThanYou]

Wow....
Fuck china

This.

Social credit score? He’s not allowed to take a flight or leave? What the fuck China.

 

[KeepItRealist]

I live in upstate NY and most Canadians I have talked to prefer their system to ours. That is anecdotal evidence though so it's all moot he-said, she-said - that why I prefer using surveys or studies.

You're right people in the US don't die at the hospital doors, they die at home because they can't afford care. 45,000 deaths due to not being able to obtain the care. There are still deaths in the Canadian system due to wait times, but no where near to just plain dying because you can't get care.

And you really think the federal government having total control over our health care system is going to make it better and not worse? Honestly.

 

[Sausage_Carius]

Chinese authoritarianism coming to a western city near you... if the ''liberals'' have their way.
Ironic isn't it..

Where's the /s?

There are no Liberals in power. There's like 5 or 6 in all of Congress.

It's mostly Right Wing nutjobs doing the restrictions on rights. That said Obama did nearly as bad a job as Bush. All Right Wingers. Far Right and Center Right. No Lefty in sight. They were all pissed and protesting Bush and yelling at Obama. They weren't in power.

 

[rob mafia]

I didn't say that Communists don't exist.
I said that you don't know any.

i said met, not know.

and AGAIN, most SJWs i met are commies. have you been in a city recently? near a college? have you heard of berkeley?

And I also know that they don't hold any real power or sway over the vast majority of the American population.
These communists you claim to know have nothing to do with any candidate running for office, or liberal I've ever met.
Nobody sane wants Soviet Russia or China in America , and it's absurd to act like this is some mainstream liberal/Democrat goal.

...are you familiar with gamergate? hint: it's expanded into hollywood/netflix.

 

[Killhippies]

And you really think the federal government having total control over our health care system is going to make it better and not worse? Honestly.

To be honest, I don't really know. This is a massive country and we can't guarantee results of Scandinavia. I'm no big government lover so don't get me wrong either, I advocate having as minimal government intervention that is reasonable. However, I think it is time that we have to start experimenting with different systems. We are literally paying the highest amount of any nation on healthcare yet rank so low. Say what you want about the socialist countries - they are beating us with only the fraction of the money(fraction of the population too, I know).

 

[SmilinDesperado]

First off, Canada has a fraction of the population of the US and has essentially surrendered the entire responsibility for it's national protection to the US. So they don't have to fund defense like so many other nations under the US umbrella. That must be nice. It's hard to find Canadians who are satisfied when you actually talk to them. Most of them bitch non-stop about their health care system. Everyone who can afford it comes here for treatment. And the best Canadian doctors come here too to get paid. It's not a perfect system, but it's not the nightmare people abroad have this idea of. People aren't left to die at hospital doors. The federal govt is too incompetent to run health care.

They would screw it up even worse than when they took over public education and the US went from the best with states and local governments running it to one of the worst in the West.

Lol national protection?
What country does Canada need to protect themselves from in 2019?

The US does NOT need to be world police, nor spend the absurd amounts.of money it does on "defense". We have plenty of money. What we also have is piss poor priorities.

US universities are still the top in the world. People come from all over the world to go to them. The prices are shitty, but they're still among the best in the world. Lol what the hell are u talking about?

 

[teamfox223]

Universal Healthcare and free higher education seems to work well for Scandinavian countries. For the most part people seem very satisfied with their quality of life.

Is not going all the well, trust me I lived in Australia before public healthcare system sucks I check in hospital at 7pm don't get to see the doctor until 12:00am is always been like that same type of story in Canada too. I started paying for private health insurance after that and the service level was night and day but you see the thing with Australia medicare and Scandinavian medicare is that there is still a choice to get private health insurance if you want Bernie's Universal medicare completely outlaws private insurance so 170 million people would lose their private health insurance they worked so hard to get, no competition so the government can run medicare how ever they like, smaller clinics will close down as the medicare pay is lower the private insurance pay, less people want to become a health professionals because of higher work load less pay, oh also your tax will increase.

https://blog.acton.org/archives/107193-national-health-care-topples-a-nordic-government.html
https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/06...e-actually-moving-toward-private-health-care/
https://issuesinsights.com/2019/06/...t-scandinavian-countries-health-care-systems/

 

[mraa1]

Oh it's this asshole. I thought it was some new UFC fighter.

 

[rob mafia]

Lol national protection?
What country does Canada need to protect themselves from in 2019?

The US does NOT need to be world police, nor spend the absurd amounts.of money it does on "defense". We have plenty of money. What we also have is piss poor priorities.

US universities are still the top in the world. People come from all over the world to go to them. The prices are shitty, but they're still among the best in the world. Lol what the hell are u talking about?

wait, what? you speak of universities while claiming that you haven't encountered commies?

and colleges are pretty much shit, these days. it's become the norm for them to be some combination of diploma mills and indoctrination camps. profs are being coerced into giving Bs to students who have piss poor comm skills and can't even write papers that were high school level circa 1990s. the amount of worthless majors/classes (ie: intersectional gender studies") increase while STEM has slowly degraded. ffs, colleges are bringing back racial segregation - and they consider it progressive. and then there's the "safe spaces" and calling the police over sidewalk chalk...

 

[Beans & Cornbread]

Is not going all the well, trust me I lived in Australia before public healthcare system sucks I check in hospital at 7pm don't get to see the doctor until 12:00am is always been like that same type of story in Canada too. I started paying for private health insurance after that and the service level was night and day but you see the thing with Australia medicare and Scandinavian medicare is that there is still a choice to get private health insurance if you want Bernie's Universal medicare completely outlaws private insurance so 170 million people would lose their private health insurance they worked so hard to get, no competition so the government can run medicare how ever they like, smaller clinics will close down as the medicare pay is lower the private insurance pay, less people want to become a health professionals because of higher work load less pay, oh also your tax will increase.

https://blog.acton.org/archives/107193-national-health-care-topples-a-nordic-government.html
https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/06...e-actually-moving-toward-private-health-care/
https://issuesinsights.com/2019/06/...t-scandinavian-countries-health-care-systems/

Honestly I dont know about Bernie's Healthcare Plan. But I figured like Medicare or whatever, people have a choice of free in network care or to seek care outside/out of pocket. I just cant imagine private insurance and private practices would be shut down in a Capitalist society.

 

[MEAN357]

...and you find this hard to believe? do you not go outside? it's not edgy enough for them to claim to be socialists, anymore.

just look up pics/videos of recent antifa "protests." count the amount of commie flags/colors/symbols.

So are you talking about knowing these people in person or just fear mongering over whatever morons are on YouTube acting stupid? Lol

I've literally never met any "communists" and I'm 110% the only people who believe in that rhetoric are idiots who are just out for shock value same as the super alt right nerds. There's no real depth to their supposed ideologies they're just out to offend people.

 

[MEAN357]

wait, what? you speak of universities while claiming that you haven't encountered commies?

and colleges are pretty much shit, these days. it's become the norm for them to be some combination of diploma mills and indoctrination camps. profs are being coerced into giving Bs to students who have piss poor comm skills and can't even write papers that were high school level circa 1990s. the amount of worthless majors/classes (ie: intersectional gender studies") increase while STEM has slowly degraded. ffs, colleges are bringing back racial segregation - and they consider it progressive. and then there's the "safe spaces" and calling the police over sidewalk chalk...

Fam your account is from 2004 I highly doubt you've been at a university ina while, honestly dunno where you're getting your information from because it doesn't seem to be first hand.

Yeah alot of these places are scams to trick everyone into debt yeah alot of em are diploma mills, and yeah theres alotta stupid fucking electives but none of this shit checks out with what I've seen personally and recently.

Could just be different locations but the majority of the people I see are rich privileged lil dbags who dont really carry lefty ideals. Plenty of lil hippy shit save the world libs but you make it sound like it's a chinese re-education camp and that shit is just not accurate.

 

[rob mafia]

So are you talking about knowing these people in person or just fear mongering over whatever morons are on YouTube acting stupid? Lol

I've literally never met any "communists" and I'm 110% the only people who believe in that rhetoric are idiots who are just out for shock value same as the super alt right nerds. There's no real depth to their supposed ideologies they're just out to offend people.

3 commies live on my block. i unfortunately ran into the dumbass in the vid i posted about 5 times. i see commies every time there's some sort of protest here. and yeah, i'm not sure how many truly believe it or if they just larp it/pretend to because socialism is no longer edgy. there were even a bunch of annoying commies that tried to enter my circle of friends (a girl i dated made the mistake of being nice to them once) ~10 years ago. but the main one ("marty rifles" aka "comrade martin") offed himself and they mostly vanished. there's still a commie bookstore here (wooden shoe) that's a SJW haven.

i have no idea how you can possibly have literally never met any commies - unless you're agoraphobic or don't live in a major city or haven't been near a campus in the last ~7 years.

the worst/loudest of the SJWs tend to be commies/commie sympathizers.

 

[Mortigan]

Chinese authoritarianism coming to a western city near you... if the ''liberals'' have their way.
Ironic isn't it..

Uuuuuhhhh

I'm pretty sure there is one group of people who are actively working towards building a culture of authoritarianism through intimidation, militarization of police, and inciting followers to commit acts of violence in the name of "loyalty".

It is not "liberals", climate scientists, or people who think human rights are a thing that society should support.

 

[rob mafia]

Fam your account is from 2004 I highly doubt you've been at a university ina while, honestly dunno where you're getting your information from because it doesn't seem to be first hand.

my gf is working on her doctorate and i know some profs. also, i live in a city. ...are you familiar with cities with schools? i often have to be at a campus just in transit.

Yeah alot of these places are scams to trick everyone into debt yeah alot of em are diploma mills, and yeah theres alotta stupid fucking electives but none of this shit checks out with what I've seen personally and recently

a prof i knew at st. joes (actually, we got in a spat over this that ended our quasi-friendship) bitched endlessly about her students and showed us the godawful final papers they turned in. she was having a breakdown because almost all of them were dreadful. she was pressured into giving them all Bs and caved. i lost respect for her for failing to do her damn job and being part of the problem.

Could just be different locations but the majority of the people I see are rich privileged lil dbags who dont really carry lefty ideals. Plenty of lil hippy shit save the world libs but you make it sound like it's a chinese re-education camp and that shit is just not accurate.

have you heard of berkeley? u of missouri?

this is penn, an ivy league university. because this black woman has the audacity to be a conservative.

 

[Killhippies]

3 commies live on my block. i unfortunately ran into the dumbass in the vid i posted about 5 times. i see commies every time there's some sort of protest here. and yeah, i'm not sure how many truly believe it or if they just larp it/pretend to because socialism is no longer edgy. there were even a bunch of annoying commies that tried to enter my circle of friends (a girl i dated made the mistake of being nice to them once) ~10 years ago. but the main one ("marty rifles" aka "comrade martin") offed himself and they mostly vanished. there's still a commie bookstore here (wooden shoe) that's a SJW haven.

i have no idea how you can possibly have literally never met any commies - unless you're agoraphobic or don't live in a major city or haven't been near a campus in the last ~7 years.

the worst/loudest of the SJWs tend to be commies/commie sympathizers.

Like, they definitely exist, but those people are almost exclusively the starbucks Che Guevaras that you are describing. I'm willing to bet almost none of them have seriously read the literature and do it more out of being part of some anti-conformist clique. They absolutely exist most frequently at colleges, but these are literally just young kids who probably don't have jobs, are a social mess and will either grow out of being hipster avenger or die from a overdose. They are loud and annoying, but they literally have no sway. It's like seeing some incel proudboys and then saying that they are the core base of conservatives.

Believe it or not, many liberals are adults and highly functional. Just as most right wingers are not going to the KKK meeting on the weekends. Don't let outrage politics cloud your views on everyone. No one benefits from it on both sides.

 

[rob mafia]

Like, they definitely exist, but those people are almost exclusively the starbucks Che Guevaras that you are describing. I'm willing to bet almost none of them have seriously read the literature and do it more out of being part of some anti-conformist clique.

...some, yes. the two that i mentioned specifically... god, no. they were commie as fuck.





i'm so glad that annoying bitch killed himself...

Believe it or not, many liberals are adults and highly functional.

wtf are you talking about? this was about SJWs being commies. and from there, how colleges are shit/indoctrination camps. i never said anything about all liberals.

 

[Captain Herb]

... and that, ladies and gentlemen, is socialism!

No matter what the fuck you put before it, may be democratic, soviet, national, peace and love, whatever. That is socialism.

And to think some retards want it here...
Dumb socialists should pay a “dumb tax”.
The dumber, the more they want socialism, accordingly more they should pay.

You should be first in line to pay the 'dumb tax'

 

[Killhippies]

Lol, like I said, that dude was not the most mentally stable. That dude was delusional and probably had other lingering issues, it just happen to manifest in him being that comical "communist" figure you see there. As you can see though, his influence did not go far. Those videos have been up for years and barely have any views. Don't get yourself so worked up over people like that, not worth your emotional energy and time.