International China Is Fuming As The U.S and Taiwan Are Forging Closer Relations

[bobgeese]

Like him or hate him, you have to give credit to trump. He’s been twisting this Taiwan knife since like day one of his administration.

 

[bushman505]

Should I get all pissed about this because Trump??? Or nah???

 

[ShinkanPo]

Like him or hate him, you have to give credit to trump. He’s been twisting this Taiwan knife since like day one of his administration.

Trump is messing up Xi Jin Ping, I am telling you this Donald Trump will break mr Xi, And I think its all by design.

 

[bobgeese]

Trump is messing up Xi Jin Ping, I am telling you this Donald Trump will break mr Xi, And I think its all by design.

At very least, hopefully politicians realize

we can fight back,

We need to fight back,

And we can win.

 

[ShinkanPo]

At very least, hopefully politicians realize

we can fight back,

We need to fight back,

And we can win.

While the rest of the world thinks America is so divided politically getting distracted with the "investigation" to the point other nations are thinking America is done because "libruls because conservatards" meanwhile American foreign policies that has some bipartisan support is actually fucking up China and expanding or atleast maintaining US influence.

 

[surrealworlds]

I dont know if Taiwan is worth going to war over or if the South China Sea mess is either but what i do know is if China sinks one of our ships or starts a war by some other means they will be surprised at what they are facing. The only way China beats us is if Russia/IRAN/North Korea or some combination of the three help them. China vs the U.S. would end with China going back to third world country status.

 

[ShinkanPo]

‘We’ll see how frightened America is’ — Chinese admiral says sinking US carriers key to dominating South China Sea
By: J.D. Simkins | January 4

The Ronald Reagan Carrier Strike Group and John C. Stennis Carrier Strike Group sailed the Philippine Sea on Nov. 16 during dual carrier operations.​

Another Beijing official has sounded off about the communist nation’s perceived dominance of the South China Sea region, this time coming as an alarming threat of inflicting mass casualties on the U.S. Navy.

During a Dec. 20 speech to the 2018 Military Industry List summit, China’s Rear Adm. Luo Yuan, the deputy head of the Chinese Academy of Military Sciences, added fuel to the South China Sea fire when he stated the key for Chinese domination in those hotly contested waters could lie in the sinking of two U.S. aircraft carriers, according to a report by Australia’s news.com.

"What the United States fears the most is taking casualties,” the admiral said, before adding that such an attack on two of the U.S. Navy’s steel behemoths would claim upwards of 10,000 lives.

Luo went on to call America’s military, money, talent, voting system and fear of adversaries the five U.S. weaknesses that can be easily exploited, according to the report.

"We’ll see how frightened America is,” he said.

China’s ongoing insistence on expanding its territory into the Spratly archipelago has agitated neighboring nations and continuously challenged international law, an assertiveness the U.S. attempts to check through routine freedom of navigation operations, or FONOPs.

"There are consequences that will continue to come home to roost, so to speak, with China if they don’t find a way to work more collaboratively with all of the nations who have interests,” former Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said in November.

"International law allows us to operate here, allows us to fly here, allows us to train here, allows us to sail here, and that’s what we’re doing and we’re going to continue to do that,” Lt. Cmdr. Tim Hawkins, spokesman for the aircraft carrier Carl Vinson, said last February.

The Vinson made history last March when it became the first U.S. carrier to visit a Vietnamese port in more than four decades, a port call that added even more tension to the already-strained U.S.-China relationship.

“The Chinese side made it clear to the United States that it should stop sending its vessels and military aircraft close to Chinese islands and reefs and stop actions that undermine Chinese authority and security interests,” Yang Jiechi, director of China’s Central Foreign Affairs Commission said in November.

Jiechi’s stance was dangerously emphasized last September when a Chinese warship nearly collided with the American guided-missile destroyer Decatur in what the U.S. Navy called an “unsafe and unprofessional maneuver.”

“They were positioning in to close on our port side, were trying to push us out of the way," a Decatur sailor said in a video documenting the encounter.

An April 2017 photo, taken by the Philippine Air Force, shows Chinese structures and an airstrip on the man-made Subi Reef at the Spratly group of islands in the South China Sea. (Francis Malasig/AP)

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China’s other primary point of contention with the U.S. has been its friendship with Taiwan, a self-ruled democratic island that Beijing sees as a breakaway province.

Arms deals between the U.S. and Taiwan have drawn the China’s ire and when the 2018 National Defense Authorization Act floated the possibility of future visits by American warships to Taiwanese ports, Chinese officials responded by issuing threats, with one such warning coming from Adm. Luo.

“If the US naval fleet dares to stop in Taiwan, it is time for the People’s Liberation Army to deploy troops to promote national unity on (invade) the island,” he said. "Those who are trying to stir up trouble in the South China Sea and Taiwan should be careful about their future.”

Wang Hongguang, a retired lieutenant general of the People’s Liberation Army, emphasized Luo’s proclamations.

“The PLA is capable of taking over Taiwan within 100 hours with only a few dozen casualties,” he said in the report. “A possible military conflict may take place in Taiwan soon. (But) As long as the US doesn’t attack China-built islands and reefs in the South China Sea, no war will take place in the area.”

An April 2017 photo, taken by the Philippine Air Force, shows Chinese structures and an airstrip on the man-made Subi Reef at the Spratly group of islands in the South China Sea. (Francis Malasig/AP)

Frequent military drills directly over or adjacent to Taiwan, meanwhile, have cut off access to the island’s dwindling list of partner nations and stirred concern among Taipei’s defense officials.

“The Chinese military’s strength continues to grow rapidly,” Taiwan’s Ministry of National Defense said in a late 2017 report obtained by Reuters. “There have been massive developments in military reforms, combined operations, weapons development and production, the building of overseas military bases and military exercises, and the military threat towards us grows daily.”

Ongoing invasion threats have been openly disputed by Taiwan’s mainland affairs minister, Chang Hsiao-Yueh, who issued a warning of her own last year.

“If they invade Taiwan militarily they will pay a very very high price," she said. "And so far I believe that’s the last resort if all the other means [of unification] are failed then finally they will do that.”

https://www.navytimes.com/news/your...s-carriers-key-to-dominating-south-china-sea/

There is a phrase in my native language we usually say when someone is trying to be bad ass and threatens some one.

I say this to the Chinese.. "Tagal Ginagawa?"

It roughly translates as "its taking too long do it?"

 

[ShinkanPo]

I dont know if Taiwan is worth going to war over or if the South China Sea mess is either but what i do know is if China sinks one of our ships or starts a war by some other means they will be surprised at what they are facing. The only way China beats us is if Russia/IRAN/North Korea or some combination of the three help them. China vs the U.S. would end with China going back to third world country status.

The US government could declare it a total war if the Chinese really goes too far and if I am not mistaken the US does not have a "no first use policy" on tactical Nuclear weapons so things could really get ugly even a conventional war will be very destructive specially for the Asia Pacific region as trade would stop and if the Americans bombs Chinese ports I just can't imagine the material shortages to follow since a lot of East Asian countries buy stuff from China and it will be hard to get them from lets say the US or Europe when the USN Submarines is conducting commerce raiding to force China into an Armistice with some conditions that will enable the US to take "reparations".

China has lots of Man power potential and their land is huge so they are potential economic power house and other countries would love to have a piece of that.

China is like your super sexy new hire at your office that everyone wants fuck but that new sexy employee is armed and has bodyguards so nobody touches her but everyone knows if she makes a mistake they would definitely try to rape her at the back office.

 

[Rholk]

The US government could declare it a total war if the Chinese really goes too far and if I am not mistaken the US does not have a "no first use policy" on tactical Nuclear weapons so things could really get ugly even a conventional war will be very destructive specially for the Asia Pacific region as trade would stop and if the Americans bombs Chinese ports I just can't imagine the material shortages to follow since a lot of East Asian countries buy stuff from China and it will be hard to get them from lets say the US or Europe when the USN Submarines is conducting commerce raiding to force China into an Armistice with some conditions that will enable the US to take "reparations".

China has lots of Man power potential and their land is huge so they are potential economic power house and other countries would love to have a piece of that.

China is like your super sexy new hire at your office that everyone wants fuck but that new sexy employee is armed and has bodyguards so nobody touches her but everyone knows if she makes a mistake they would definitely try to rape her at the back office.

What kind of fucking office do you work at

 

[ShinkanPo]

What kind of fucking office do you work at

I don't work no Job : (


But seriously I used to work at call center and there are real scumbags that gawk at new hires or very young interns and at times some the men say disgusting shit like "I cant wait for a company party so maybe we can spike Abbie's drink and we do her in the back room" even if they are saying that as jokes still disturbing oh and there is this 50 year old colleague of mine who keeps taking pictures under the women's skirts or dresses and he even brags about it he would also take picture under the desks.

So many creep not to mention some women freaks as well who will scream sexual harassment just because you have that Chuck Liddel look in your eye. unbelievable how many crazy people in our society these days.

 

[Rholk]

I don't work no Job : (


But seriously I used to work at call center and there are real scumbags that gawk at new hires or very young interns and at times some the men say disgusting shit like "I cant wait for a company party so maybe we can spike Abbie's drink and we do her in the back room" even if they are saying that as jokes still disturbing oh and there is this 50 year old colleague of mine who keeps taking pictures under the women's skirts or dresses and he even brags about it he would also take picture under the desks.

So many creep not to mention some women freaks as well who will scream sexual harassment just because you have that Chuck Liddel look in your eye. unbelievable how many crazy people in our society these days.

Didn't realise the officelife was that hardcore....
Hespect

 

[S Class]

Suck it, China.

 

[S Class]

I don't work no Job : (


But seriously I used to work at call center and there are real scumbags that gawk at new hires or very young interns and at times some the men say disgusting shit like "I cant wait for a company party so maybe we can spike Abbie's drink and we do her in the back room" even if they are saying that as jokes still disturbing oh and there is this 50 year old colleague of mine who keeps taking pictures under the women's skirts or dresses and he even brags about it he would also take picture under the desks.

So many creep not to mention some women freaks as well who will scream sexual harassment just because you have that Chuck Liddel look in your eye. unbelievable how many crazy people in our society these days.

Dafuq is going on in that call center, bro? Damn. Well, hope you get a better job at a better place, man.

 

[cleetus]

I don't work no Job : (


But seriously I used to work at call center and there are real scumbags that gawk at new hires or very young interns and at times some the men say disgusting shit like "I cant wait for a company party so maybe we can spike Abbie's drink and we do her in the back room" even if they are saying that as jokes still disturbing oh and there is this 50 year old colleague of mine who keeps taking pictures under the women's skirts or dresses and he even brags about it he would also take picture under the desks.

So many creep not to mention some women freaks as well who will scream sexual harassment just because you have that Chuck Liddel look in your eye. unbelievable how many crazy people in our society these days.

Pics or GTFO.

 

[loyalyolayal]

Didn't realise the officelife was that hardcore....
Hespect

Office is serious business.

 

[bufetadanacara]

USA selling weapons to Taiwan is a mistake. Once Taiwan folds and goes back to Beijing rule, China can then use those American weapons against Americans.

 

[surrealworlds]

What the fuck? Just my two cents but if you are aware of guys talking about raping coworkers and taking illicit pictures like that you are just as guilty as they are if you dont do something about it. Id report those POS in a second.

As for the topic at hand, Nukes are always an option for the U.S. but i hope it wouldnt come to that. The only area China would have the upper hand is pure manpower.
That wouldnt make much of a difference if we bombed strategic locations and cut them off from the rest of the world. Its a huge country so attempting occupation would be a mistake. Who knows how it would go down. Honestly i hope it doesnt happen and everything becomes peaceful but if China continues to saber rattle we might have to give them a black eye.

The US government could declare it a total war if the Chinese really goes too far and if I am not mistaken the US does not have a "no first use policy" on tactical Nuclear weapons so things could really get ugly even a conventional war will be very destructive specially for the Asia Pacific region as trade would stop and if the Americans bombs Chinese ports I just can't imagine the material shortages to follow since a lot of East Asian countries buy stuff from China and it will be hard to get them from lets say the US or Europe when the USN Submarines is conducting commerce raiding to force China into an Armistice with some conditions that will enable the US to take "reparations".

China has lots of Man power potential and their land is huge so they are potential economic power house and other countries would love to have a piece of that.

China is like your super sexy new hire at your office that everyone wants fuck but that new sexy employee is armed and has bodyguards so nobody touches her but everyone knows if she makes a mistake they would definitely try to rape her at the back office.

What kind of fucking office do you work at

I don't work no Job : (


But seriously I used to work at call center and there are real scumbags that gawk at new hires or very young interns and at times some the men say disgusting shit like "I cant wait for a company party so maybe we can spike Abbie's drink and we do her in the back room" even if they are saying that as jokes still disturbing oh and there is this 50 year old colleague of mine who keeps taking pictures under the women's skirts or dresses and he even brags about it he would also take picture under the desks.

So many creep not to mention some women freaks as well who will scream sexual harassment just because you have that Chuck Liddel look in your eye. unbelievable how many crazy people in our society these days.

 

[surrealworlds]

That would be the least of our concerns.

USA selling weapons to Taiwan is a mistake. Once Taiwan folds and goes back to Beijing rule, China can then use those American weapons against Americans.

 

[ShinkanPo]

Office is serious business.

I remembeer your thread were you litteraly filled the room with upercuts.

 

[loyalyolayal]

I remembeer your thread were you litteraly filled the room with upercuts.