China is becoming unstoppable. Shanghai cooperation is going good while G7 is joke

Problem is people have no perspective.

They worry about trumps tweets, tone, demeanor, and keeping up with traditional presidential norms of the past few decades.

Obviously the most crucial problem facing our country is that we are losing our hegemony....and worse of all we have ushered it in ourselves for short term gains. Everything about trumps presidency revolves around maintaining that hegemony.

Everyone screams about a trade war. When the alternative to a trade war is China surpassing us in gdp in the very near future. Of course an arms race would follow and god forbid war.


We are at the tail end of our reign and if there was an all out trade war we would win. The same thing may not be true in 5-10 years. Now is the time, while we have a fleeting leverage, to take on China economically.

I hate repeating the same talking points due to different threads with different posters but the hegemony is not something we really need going forward and we are far too bloated and overextended around the globe as it is.

The US is actually the least internationally linked (dependent) economy in the developed world with a robust future demography outlook, is an agricultural superpower with the largest and most productive region of contiguous arable land of any country, is soon to be not only energy independent but the largest oil and gas producer on the globe and net exporter for the first time since 1953.

It's rapidly reindustrializing and will be the most competitive manufacturing country on the planet by 2020 thanks in part to the shale revolution, reshoring and manufacturing 4.0 innovations, it has the dominant market share of the two most high-tech industries there are (aerospace and semiconductors) and is throwing inflation-adjusted record sums towards all forms and fields of research and development.
 
While leaders in west cry about refugees, ´tolerance´, being ´pro islam´ and not íslamphobic´´ trans, gays, and bending over and hysteria over Russia.

China is leading this.... Say what you want but all these countries like all countries outside the west are intolerant, nationalist, etc and common ground can be made. China will never own or take over the former soviet sphere or iran, or india. But that does not mean that china cannot become a huge economic influence to those countries. In south east asia, china has higher chance of making vietnam, Myanmar, Philippines its bitch. Duterte is selling out Philippines to China for protection (and kind of joked about Philippines becoming a province of china) and other things to take Philippines away from US influence for good. Myanmar is being protected internationally from upset Muslim world over there state sanctioned actions against Islam. And by the way China is brainwashing muslims and jailing them to counter any potential islamic insurgency that might destablize it most western province of Xinjiang and there is nothing the arab world can do to China, china is not Israel and all weak and small. Mynanmar now becoming chinese client state. Vietnam, laos, cambodia all still have there communist roots and vietnam is officially still communist.......

Singapore is filled with chinese money as is many other south east asian countries and very large Chinese oversea community. Thailand to will sell itself to china. Laos and cambodia will one day soon feel the pull of communist brother hood. South korea does not want to fight north korea and will eventually concede. Russia has no choice but to be nice to China to starve off US led and EU sanctions and to also expand the eurasian union to include iran, former soviet sphere and maybe eventually turkey or mongolia. Russia also need china to counter US/NATO expansionist bullshit and Russia stands to benefit as it likely that China knows it cannot really control or own the former soviet sphere the way Russia can given Russia history with those countries in russian empire and the russian diaspora in kazakhstan, ukraine, belarus, etc and the natural pull armenia and some stan countries have to Russia. While china may one day include itself into some east asian wannabe EU thing.

Chinese working on super computing quantum stuff, gene engineering, human cloning. They will one day soon breed super gene engineered people and not care about being called ´like hitler´´. They will out compete the west.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/as-th...irms-the-new-century-of-multipolarity/5643879

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last i check to ASEAN is rapidly increasing economic ties to China. Projected trade $1 trillion by 2020.

http://www.asiaone.com/business/china-asean-trade-hit-us1-trillion-2020


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If you would have applied this same effort to your mafia question I think we could have had one of the most interesting conversations on a hugely important (and largely unexplored!) issue for our forum. The containment of organized crime, and the philosophical question of the line that separates organized crime from shady white-collar success, are perpetual challenges to every modern sophisticated society that exists, or has ever existed.

Great post.
 
I liked his line when he said we are seeking to make trade fair with our enemies and friends alike.


The truth is we are the biggest consumers on the planet and have the most powerful military. Trade deals should be in our favor if we actually used our leverage

I agree, but we should not alienate Canada, and Europe. They are our closest allies. We ought to come together with them.
 
They want to control the Pacific trade routes, and when they do, they will essentially control the world.

Once global warming opens the northern sea though.
 
trans, gays, and bending over

FFS, Seaside.
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To be entirely honest, it may have had a sort of secondary impact on declining white birth rates as societal acceptance became normalized. There's a fuckton of unaccounted for bisexual people as well; some still have kids, others don't.
 
I agree, but we should not alienate Canada, and Europe. They are our closest allies. We ought to come together with them.


Although I agree, it’s kind of been a one sided relationship. And the current leadership of both countries have views that are antithetical to trumps.

At the end of the day if they are truly our allies than they will remain as such even if we don’t see eye to eye on trade.
 
All electronics will soon be made in north korea for 1/10 the price.
 
Although I agree, it’s kind of been a one sided relationship. And the current leadership of both countries have views that are antithetical to trumps.

At the end of the day if they are truly our allies than they will remain as such even if we don’t see eye to eye on trade.

 
I think a Unified Europe will be stronger than China. The EU economy is already the biggest in the world and only expanding. There are lots of countries that can still be integrated into the EU. The Northern European social democracy system is simply the best system of government all things considered.

That is something China will turn into IMO as well. They still have to survive the end of communism. And I think they are going to model their system like the German social economy just even more socialists.
But if you ask me how the world will look by the end of the century.
Unified Europe will be the strongest player. With China, India and the ASEAN close behind it. But I think in general everyone will be very close because of the ever-increasing trade. There will be a lot less tension with the US losing more of its influence.
 
Scandinavia is still the best place in the world to live so don´t fucking care.
 
If you would have applied this same effort to your mafia question I think we could have had one of the most interesting conversations on a hugely important (and largely unexplored!) issue for our forum. The containment of organized crime, and the philosophical question of the line that separates organized crime from shady white-collar success, are perpetual challenges to every modern sophisticated society that exists, or has ever existed.

Great post.

what if i redo the thread but put more time into it? I wonder why it was dumped. I will put more effort. I spent time making this thread checking spelling so on and sources.
They want to control the Pacific traderoutes, and when they do, they will essentially control the world.

almost. More like half the world or at least most of asia. the western hemisphere and europe could still technically find ways around that.


Scandinavia is still the best place in the world to live so don´t fucking care.

says who? It is cold as hell and the women are way too white, feminist, and pale for my liking. Need ass, and some color on woman. Not to mention it is filled with mentally deranged gringos and cultural marxist cuck culture shit. Oh and it becoming increasingly african @Son of Jamin a actual swede knows and know they predict sweden become 3rd world in like 30 years from UN data. Also more islamic.
 
says who? It is cold as hell and the women are way too white, feminist, and pale for my liking. Need ass, and some color on woman. Not to mention it is filled with mentally deranged gringos and cultural marxist cuck culture shit. Oh and it becoming increasingly african @Son of Jamin a actual swede knows and know they predict sweden become 3rd world in like 30 years from UN data. Also more islamic.

Norway >>> Sweden
 
Who cares, this is good for Trumps business interests.
 
what if i redo the thread but put more time into it? I wonder why it was dumped. I will put more effort. I spent time making this thread checking spelling so on and sources.


almost. More like half the world or at least most of asia. the western hemisphere and europe could still technically find ways around that.




says who? It is cold as hell and the women are way too white, feminist, and pale for my liking. Need ass, and some color on woman. Not to mention it is filled with mentally deranged gringos and cultural marxist cuck culture shit. Oh and it becoming increasingly african @Son of Jamin a actual swede knows and know they predict sweden become 3rd world in like 30 years from UN data. Also more islamic.
Since you are obviously a clueless dumbass in regards to Scandinavia I am not going to waste time explaining.
Keep gunning for that retarded poster title. You are beating judge and abig. Byron seems to be on break.
 
what if i redo the thread but put more time into it? I wonder why it was dumped. I will put more effort. I spent time making this thread checking spelling so on and sources.
Sounds great. You need to provide a bit more narrow framework in the OP for discussion, and start by providing historical examples or anecdotes that have some bearing on a more current and immediate example of organized crime.
 
Since you are obviously a clueless dumbass in regards to Scandinavia I am not going to waste time explaining.
Keep gunning for that retarded poster title. You are beating judge and abig. Byron seems to be on break.

what i said is true. cultural marxist or liberalism whatever they want to call it. is fact there and celebrated by the people. Look it up. Some people like it others do not. It is fact that they push the trans, gay, and all race equal and trannie stuff. It fact that swedes sing songs promoted by government that say ´¨My country is yours´´´

it is fact that these weirdos raising kids is considered good. screw scandinavia hope it goes 3rd world from muslims and africans. people in here say screw muslim countries, israel, china, russia, france or brazil? well i say screw those cold boring countries.



Denmark over both.

why? norway at least on paper looks more beautiful and pictures i see. Denmark looks like a sad place to be locked into. The appeal would be traveling to other countries.
 
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Sounds great. You need to provide a bit more narrow framework in the OP for discussion, and start by providing historical examples or anecdotes that have some bearing on a more current and immediate example of organized crime.

okay i am thinking since this mostly americans here. About how the FBI beat organized crime?

then i can relate to how can mexico beat organized crime and how can colombia beat its elements. Some people might even say former soviet countries organized crime defeated by government crushing all and merging with 1 dominant group and then controlling group. For example some people say that uzbekistan and turkmenistan are mafia states ran by the same group since collapse of soviet union who also had power in it before collapse and that the ´uzbek´mob is really just agents of the President. In Azerbaijan it said the ruling family controls the azeri mob and they work with the Russian mob. The Russian mob it said has many different community inside but that the top ones have FSB contacts.
 
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