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Well not great surprise here China is willing to let its own citizens suffer to try teach Australia a lessen

https://www.news.com.au/finance/bus...n/news-story/8e888701f2766097a7658ee86a0495c8

China’s savage trade war with Australia has brought a string of industries to their knees – but now, it appears the feud has also spectacularly backfired for Beijing.

In recent weeks, the superpower has rolled out harsh restrictions on many Australian sectors, including wine, timber, barley and lobsters.

Aussie coal has also been unofficially banned since October, with steel mills and power companies apparently told to steer clear.

It has also emerged that more than 60 ships carrying thermal and coking coal are stuck off China’s coast, unable to unload almost $700 million worth of Australian goods.


According to The Australian, power shortages are increasing in China with millions of citizens resorting to rationing their heating over winter and avoiding using elevators.

“You cannot pretend that bad relations between China and Australia haven’t contributed to this situation,” a Chinese energy insider told the publication.

Last year, Australia supplied more than half of China’s thermal coal imports for power stations and more than 40 per cent of the nation’s imports of coking coal.

According to Garda World, the world’s largest privately owned security services company which offers business solutions, electricity shortages are expected to affect parts of Hunan, Jiangxi, and Zhejiang provinces until early February 2021.

That could lead to temporary commercial and communications disruptions, including mobile phones, as well as traffic disruptions caused by malfunctioning traffic signals and train delays due to impacted signalling devices or overhead wires.

Supply chains and essential services like ATMs and gas stations could also be disrupted, with officials ordering a number of factories to operate during non-peak hours only.


https://www.news.com.au/finance/eco...s/news-story/dab675a81609d1836c791e4e5688e2f5

Earlier this year China imposed an 80 per cent tariff for five years on the $600 million of annual barley exports from Australia over dumping claims.



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China imposed an 80 per cent tariff on barley imports from Australia earlier this year. Picture: Richard Wainwright/AAPSource:AAP



Trade Minister Simon Birmingham has strongly denied these allegations and repeatedly called on China to resolve the matter.

Earlier this year, Mr Birmingham also suggested the tariffs would also prove detrimental to Chinese consumers, pointing to research from the Australian Bureau of Agricultural and Resource Economics and Sciences (ABARES).

Modelling showed Australian farmers would likely see a loss of about $330 million, while China could potentially see a loss of $3.6 billion due to its reliance on Australia’s quality barley for brewing beer.

“With Australia’s agricultural production diverted to other activities, exports of other agricultural products in 2025 are estimated to increase,” the ABARES report stated.

“This means the value of Australia’s total agricultural exports (to all countries) would fall by less than what is lost in the trade with China.”

The report claimed the tariff on Australian barley would see Chinese buyers shift to alternative sources for malting barley, which would likely result in lower returns for their products.

“The need to find alternative supplies of barley leads to an increase in demand for Chinese-grown barley. In response, Chinese agriculture shifts towards a less efficient production mix of coarse grains (corn and barley), which further compounds the effect of the tariff,” the report states.


No great surprises there, they just plan on being able to suffer longer than Australia because they don't give a shit about their own people. Hopefully we man up, now is the time
 
Australia will be a Chinese country in a few decades time, so it doesn't really matter. They'll win, in the end.
 
China will win.... apparently none of our first world brothers wants a piece of them.
 
China will win.... apparently none of our first world brothers wants a piece of them.

Luckily I've always been a fan of going down with the ship and backing the underdog then ha.
 
I say cancel the phase 1 deal and let them retaliate by reassessing tariffs on essentials they can’t produce domestically.
 
Well not great surprise here China is willing to let its own citizens suffer to try teach Australia a lessen

https://www.news.com.au/finance/bus...n/news-story/8e888701f2766097a7658ee86a0495c8

China’s savage trade war with Australia has brought a string of industries to their knees – but now, it appears the feud has also spectacularly backfired for Beijing.

In recent weeks, the superpower has rolled out harsh restrictions on many Australian sectors, including wine, timber, barley and lobsters.

Aussie coal has also been unofficially banned since October, with steel mills and power companies apparently told to steer clear.

It has also emerged that more than 60 ships carrying thermal and coking coal are stuck off China’s coast, unable to unload almost $700 million worth of Australian goods.


According to The Australian, power shortages are increasing in China with millions of citizens resorting to rationing their heating over winter and avoiding using elevators.

“You cannot pretend that bad relations between China and Australia haven’t contributed to this situation,” a Chinese energy insider told the publication.

Last year, Australia supplied more than half of China’s thermal coal imports for power stations and more than 40 per cent of the nation’s imports of coking coal.

According to Garda World, the world’s largest privately owned security services company which offers business solutions, electricity shortages are expected to affect parts of Hunan, Jiangxi, and Zhejiang provinces until early February 2021.

That could lead to temporary commercial and communications disruptions, including mobile phones, as well as traffic disruptions caused by malfunctioning traffic signals and train delays due to impacted signalling devices or overhead wires.

Supply chains and essential services like ATMs and gas stations could also be disrupted, with officials ordering a number of factories to operate during non-peak hours only.


https://www.news.com.au/finance/eco...s/news-story/dab675a81609d1836c791e4e5688e2f5

Earlier this year China imposed an 80 per cent tariff for five years on the $600 million of annual barley exports from Australia over dumping claims.



e96a9bf0ed4a4df42759c7077ab17e5a

China imposed an 80 per cent tariff on barley imports from Australia earlier this year. Picture: Richard Wainwright/AAPSource:AAP



Trade Minister Simon Birmingham has strongly denied these allegations and repeatedly called on China to resolve the matter.

Earlier this year, Mr Birmingham also suggested the tariffs would also prove detrimental to Chinese consumers, pointing to research from the Australian Bureau of Agricultural and Resource Economics and Sciences (ABARES).

Modelling showed Australian farmers would likely see a loss of about $330 million, while China could potentially see a loss of $3.6 billion due to its reliance on Australia’s quality barley for brewing beer.

“With Australia’s agricultural production diverted to other activities, exports of other agricultural products in 2025 are estimated to increase,” the ABARES report stated.

“This means the value of Australia’s total agricultural exports (to all countries) would fall by less than what is lost in the trade with China.”

The report claimed the tariff on Australian barley would see Chinese buyers shift to alternative sources for malting barley, which would likely result in lower returns for their products.

“The need to find alternative supplies of barley leads to an increase in demand for Chinese-grown barley. In response, Chinese agriculture shifts towards a less efficient production mix of coarse grains (corn and barley), which further compounds the effect of the tariff,” the report states.


No great surprises there, they just plan on being able to suffer longer than Australia because they don't give a shit about their own people. Hopefully we man up, now is the time


I am not attacking you are doubting the article.

But the hell with them calling China a superpower.

They haven't beaten anyone in a huge war.

USSR is a super power they beatup Germany.

USA took on the Japanese.
 
Its sad China could not get its shit together they are to arrogant and over confident in their wisdom had they spent the last 4 years really brainstorming how they can improve their country and gain new allies thru more cooperation instead of thinking they are just superior because their history they might have pulled it of instead they just patt them selves in the back pointing out how dumb Americans for Electing Trump.

Even before that they are so racist they thought America is done because they elected a black Muslim president.

They think they are so good.
 
China can’t afford to let Australia make it out of this one, if they can’t bully a small country that does most of its trading with China, they aren’t going to be that scary to larger, nearer neighbors.
 
China can’t afford to let Australia make it out of this one, if they can’t bully a small country that does most of its trading with China, they aren’t going to be that scary to larger, nearer neighbors.

Its Sad China is just starting and yet they are already crumbling.


Dying Empire so sad.
 
Its Sad China is just starting and yet they are already crumbling.


Dying Empire so sad.
They’re not dying yet, it all depends on how the US and our allies respond.

China beats everyone in the region one on one, they can’t handle a unified bloc, though.
 
They’re not dying yet, it all depends on how the US and our allies respond.

China beats everyone in the region one on one, they can’t handle a unified bloc, though.

They are crumbling soon despite the gifted investments they recieved from US corps and ignorring the labor rights issue they still end up corrupt and inept.

Imagine if they really get treated like the Soviet Union during the 50s where western gocernments actively subvert them.

China thru out many times in its history were on the verge of greatness until they shoot them selves in the foot.
 
With China Joe coming to the White House, Australia will need to turn to Japan and other nations for allies in this matter. But, hey Australia kind of help do this to themselves with the ridiculous support of pushing Trump out of office from the very beginning with the phone call and the spies.

https://apnews.com/article/f9b05595332242e9809f739d9a185177

The Australian diplomat spy took a comment ridiculously out of context to help push the crippling of the Trump Administration with a non-stop investigation.

Then we had the leaked phone call and Australia didn't stand up for Trump or the U.S.A. I read the entire transcript and Trump was a solid advocate for the U.S., but dismayed at the horrible deal Obama made prior, which he decided to honor begrudgingly to help Australia anyways. He took the bullet.

I have a very close friend in Perth. While visiting and watching the Aussie News I was surprised at the real negative bias that went out against Trump. Dude took the immigration bullet straight on for Australia and still got shit on.
 
Look, we should trade all our fugly armpit hair SJW bitches to china for some sweet sweet chinese womenz!





Even before that they are so racist they thought America is done because they elected a black Muslim president.

Obama was a terrible president. Plus his mother was jewish so doesn't that make him jewish
 
With China Joe coming to the White House, Australia will need to turn to Japan and other nations for allies in this matter. But, hey Australia kind of help do this to themselves with the ridiculous support of pushing Trump out of office from the very beginning with the phone call and the spies.

https://apnews.com/article/f9b05595332242e9809f739d9a185177

The Australian diplomat spy took a comment ridiculously out of context to help push the crippling of the Trump Administration with a non-stop investigation.

Then we had the leaked phone call and Australia didn't stand up for Trump or the U.S.A. I read the entire transcript and Trump was a solid advocate for the U.S., but dismayed at the horrible deal Obama made prior, which he decided to honor begrudgingly to help Australia anyways. He took the bullet.

I have a very close friend in Perth. While visiting and watching the Aussie News I was surprised at the real negative bias that went out against Trump. Dude took the immigration bullet straight on for Australia and still got shit on.

Calling Alexander Downer a spy is hilarious.
Papadopolous was bragging about having dirt on Clinton in emails from the Russians.
By "negative bias" you mean reporting what Trump has said, tweeted and done?
 
Calling Alexander Downer a spy is hilarious.
Papadopolous was bragging about having dirt on Clinton in emails from the Russians.
By "negative bias" you mean reporting what Trump has said, tweeted and done?

^^^ There you go. Good luck with China.

There is nothing wrong with the transcript, unless you are spinning it.

I love Australia, but it is what it is.
 
^^^ There you go. Good luck with China.

I love Australian, but it is what it is.

The US proved useless as support, so no loss if Biden is equally as bad.
Obama's "Pivot to Asia" achieved nothing, and Trump couldn't even get an Ambassador here until March 2019, while alienating former allies and failing utterly at any sort of foreign policy leadership (never even bothered with ASEAN or the east Asian summits).
 
Wonder why Trump isn't increasing trade with our Aussie brothers. Fuckin moron.
 
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