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Charles Oliveira has 7 straight wins, all finishes. He should only fight the champ or # 1 contender.

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  1. HootyMcBoob Blue Belt

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    Charles Oliveira should be well ahead of Dustin Poirer and Tony Ferguson. And OBVIOUSLY Conor McGregor and Michael Chandler.

    He should either been the Khabib/Gaethje back up or should have fought Tony Ferguson or Dustin Poirer for # 1 Contender status. Anything else is bullshit.
     
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  2. Sweater of AV Gold Belt

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    Yeah but is he Dana's friend?
     
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    He’s getting the Tony Ferguson treatment. It’s almost bad luck to win too many fights in a row in that division, unless your name is Khabib.
     
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  4. WHITE ANDERSON Black Belt

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    7 straight finishes over journeymen

    i like chuckie olives, but he needs to beat a contender for once in his life
     
  5. Fesaine Brown Belt

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    Other than Kevin lee he hasn't beaten any top guys yet.
     
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    Bastard grow up and try to spell/write fighters names correctly. Try to say chuckie olives in his face and quess what?? 6 ribs gets out of you and going to the market
     
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  7. Guy LeDouche Brown Belt

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    I’d like to see him beat a top 5 guy first. A few of those wins aren’t that great. He tends to quit when things get tough or against a game opponent.
     
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    The only good win he has is Kevin Lee coming in with a 2-3 record. He always gets overhyped by fickle fans while beating B level guys or guys on the downswing. Then anytime he fights an A level guy on the rise, he gets destroyed.

    If it was like HW, Oliveira would be like Stipe, Champ of a weak division. Too bad LW is deep.

    The UFC knows this, that's why they haven't given him the very best guys.
     
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    Duck yea Im all in this shit.
    Long time fan of Do Bronx(even dough he never went there who gives a shit wu tang is for the kids)!
     
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    *Michael Chandler enters the chat*
     
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  11. youllneverwalkalone Purple Belt

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    This. He has looked impressive but hasn't beaten any real contender yet (besides maybe Kevin Lee, if you can consider him that). So no TS yet but a title eliminator next would makes sense.

    Obviously he should be ranked ahead of Conor and Chandler, neither of whom should be in the UFC 155 ranking to begin with.
     
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    Yeah because wins over Nik lentz and Jared Gordon definitely deserve a title shot<{cruzshake}>

    Quality of wins matter.

    Quality of wins>number of wins
     
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    Love Charles but the problem with this theory (aside from the Conor part) is that of those 7 wins only one is against a top 10 LW and none are against the top 5 guys (again aside from the bs ranked Conor) you say he should be a head of.

    Looking great against guy's outside the top 10 is nothing new but if you want to get Title fights you have to win more than 1 top 10 fight and at least 1 top 5 fight (again unless your name is Conor), that's just how this shit works dude, you don't get title shots based on winning streaks unless those streaks are against top 10 opponents.

    No disrespect but the fact you even made this thread demonstrates a lack of understanding among fans of what "top contender" actually means.

    Charles should definitely get a top 5 opponent in his next fight but to suggest he should be "well ahead" of proven contenders like Tony and Justin, even Chandler in reality is pretty absurd dude.
     
  14. Snake Master Green Belt

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    He has zero(0) top 7 wins.
    Give him hooker
     
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    They have to change the ranking design by assigning point values to guys ranked 5-15 and higher values for guys in the TOP 5 and make it impossible to fight for a championship without a certain number of points of which 70% must come from top 5 opponents, that type of thing.

    But then it would wreck Dana's plan of putting up circus matches without having to admit he's running a circus.
     
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  16. youllneverwalkalone Purple Belt

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    Good idea but you figured out yourself why it's never gonna happen. Objective/ purely merit-based matchmaking has never existed in combat sports. Even mandatory opponents in boxing are a joke.
     
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  17. Razor Silver Belt

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    Oliveira should fight a top 5 guy next for sure, anything less is BS

    or Chandler
     
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    USADA enters the chat.

    Michael Chandler has left the chat.
     
  19. xhaydenx Brown Belt

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    100% this.

    Dariush has better opponents on his win streak.
     
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  20. drbolony -El Styles-

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    He needs to beat top ranked guys. Kevin Lee wasn't really a test where Charles is deficient.
    Yup and I'm pretty sure Chuck would've lost to him.
    Doesn't make his point any less true.
     

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