Chances of Dustin beating Khabib?
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He has a classic puncher's chance. 5-10% imo.
Wouldn't bet on the fight.
Edit: lol @ you betting on HW title fights and high-profile fights meanwhile putting a little bit on Worthy last weekend among others we're far better bets even if you didn't know shit about him. His opponent was a - 1000 favorite even though he's green as fuck. - 1000 is rarely warranted in MMA hence it's a great bet.
Wouldn't bet on the fight.
Edit: lol @ you betting on HW title fights and high-profile fights meanwhile putting a little bit on Worthy last weekend among others we're far better bets even if you didn't know shit about him. His opponent was a - 1000 favorite even though he's green as fuck. - 1000 is rarely warranted in MMA hence it's a great bet.
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Don't get American odds, bro.
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Anything can happen, I'd actually be more surprised if Dustin won than I would be Holly beating Ronda though.
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Dustin has known he'll be fighting Khabib for awhile now. I have no doubt his camp has centered around TDD and getting up off the cage. If Dustin is able to keep Khabib off of him and can turn this fight into a strikers duel, it could be interesting...
That said, I still think Khabib is going to win. But it's by no means a lock..
That said, I still think Khabib is going to win. But it's by no means a lock..
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dustin has one of the best chances to win this fight. I don't think its going to be so one sided. i think kabib is going to get cut up and rocked in this fight at the least.
to add to this- conor knew he would fight kabib for a long time and specifically trained non stop for that fight before it was even signed. Conor managed to make it to the fourth, won a round and actually surprised people with how well he did all things considered.
i think this is essentially the same for dustin except dustin wont get tired like conor did and is bigger for the weight class. Hes also likely more competent on the ground when it comes to jiujitsu at least than conor was.
I compare the two because they are both primarily strikers with spurts of impressive ground skills who knew they would be fighting kabib eventually for years. .
to add to this- conor knew he would fight kabib for a long time and specifically trained non stop for that fight before it was even signed. Conor managed to make it to the fourth, won a round and actually surprised people with how well he did all things considered.
i think this is essentially the same for dustin except dustin wont get tired like conor did and is bigger for the weight class. Hes also likely more competent on the ground when it comes to jiujitsu at least than conor was.
I compare the two because they are both primarily strikers with spurts of impressive ground skills who knew they would be fighting kabib eventually for years. .
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Maybe he will, maybe he won't.
What is, is.
Whatever happens will happen.
What is, is.
Whatever happens will happen.
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OH REALLY?
You would be more surprised by something happening than something that has already happened ...???
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Bottom line is you just never, ever, fucking know.
The worst thing about that is that everyone forgets that, and relatively soon after the changeup.
After Holly KTFO of Rousy, of course it made sense looking back. But before that? She was a +700 underdog.
Bisping was a +600 underdog for UFC 199 while Rockhold was -1050 favored, I think almost twice that at opening. But today, if they were to fight again I think everyone would put money on Bisping.
It's insane. It's so unpredictable, you will never, ever be able to make a bet that is absolutely safe because MMA is like exceedingly unbalanced chemistry, and every single new match-up is a chemical you've never seen before.
Within the context of this thread, there is very little we can know. I'll just say this:
1) Dustin's odds are low for a reason.
2) There is a counter to Khabib's technique. There always is, and the counter is always something the champion never sees coming.
Therefore there is no bet that is truly safe. There is prediction, perception, and joy when those two come together for the betting man.
The worst thing about that is that everyone forgets that, and relatively soon after the changeup.
After Holly KTFO of Rousy, of course it made sense looking back. But before that? She was a +700 underdog.
Bisping was a +600 underdog for UFC 199 while Rockhold was -1050 favored, I think almost twice that at opening. But today, if they were to fight again I think everyone would put money on Bisping.
It's insane. It's so unpredictable, you will never, ever be able to make a bet that is absolutely safe because MMA is like exceedingly unbalanced chemistry, and every single new match-up is a chemical you've never seen before.
Within the context of this thread, there is very little we can know. I'll just say this:
1) Dustin's odds are low for a reason.
2) There is a counter to Khabib's technique. There always is, and the counter is always something the champion never sees coming.
Therefore there is no bet that is truly safe. There is prediction, perception, and joy when those two come together for the betting man.
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If you were to bet your life on it, which way you going?
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You've wasted a post there, I think we both know what I meant.
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I haven't had as much time as I'd like to really dig in, but based on what I know, here's my take.
If I were betting my life, and I had to bet, I'd pick Khabib.
Having said that, I will be putting money down on Dustin. Not because I think he'll win but because I think of all the opponents Khabib has faced, Dustin stands the best chance of solving the puzzle.
Things working in Dustin's favor:
1) Odds with Holloway were similar. He was +170 against Max, currently sits at +205 with Khabib.
2) He has become physically enormous over his career. I believe that he, like Khabib, could not cut down to 145 if he tried.
3) His combination of striking prowess and strength mixed with his TDD and defensive wrestling could keep Khabib on his toes. He's not as good of a wrestler as some of the other people Khabib has wrestlefucked, but he has enough to mount a defense, and his striking is as good if not better than McGregor's. Adding to that, he won't be acting like a fucktard in and out of the ring so his precision might eclipse Conor's.
4) His wife's perfect, enormous breasts.
Things working against Dustin:
1) Khabib. Khabib is the best wrestler in the UFC aside from Askren and the big big guys like DC/Stipe.
2) He's a monster lightweight. The dude is more of a welterweight than Cowboy, RDA, and the others that go between those two weight classes.
3) The overwhelming pressure. In terms of confidence Khabib is on cloud nine. His day is coming; everyone's is, but until someone solves the puzzle, the champion always seems invincible. Dustin's saving grace in this is that he knows this, and he himself has been on such a tear, overcoming challenge after challenge. I mean he tore Pettis apart. Having said that, the intimidation factor of Khabib is not easy to put aside.
