Champs picking there matchuo

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  1. Inabox

    Inabox Blue Belt

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    I just had a very heated debate with a coworker about Jones, Cormier and Gustafson. My friend says Jones has earned the right to pick his opponent. I said a champ should never under any circumstances be able to pick his opponents because they could start picking hacks, and no bodies to lengthen there title runs.
    What do you all think?
     
  2. BionicCommando

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    It should be give and take. Champion occasionally fights the guy who the company says he should fight regardless of reason while company occasionally allows the champion to dictate his next move. They work together, do each other a solid when they need one and everybody gets along.


    The problem is Jones already called in a favor with Glover. In theory, if the volley system works, he owes the UFC one.
     
  3. peanustndimes

    peanustndimes They be fightin for peanuts

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    If I was a pornstar, I'd want the chick with huge tits.
     
  4. SaintSoldier

    SaintSoldier Brown Belt

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    It should be part of the contract that you fight whomever the UFC puts in front of you.
     
  5. Nuclear Fallout

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    I agree with you. You never earn the right to pick your opponents, that is the matchmakers job. Yours is to fight, that's it. Gus earned his rematch and should have had a immediate rematch if I had any say in the matter.
     
  6. If rankings mattered this wouldnt be the case. However they don't, and shit like this and Anderson avoiding Weidman until Chris had a surgery happens.

    This sport will one day become just like boxing, where champs like Pac and PBF never fight, etc.
     
  7. Quarthon

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    Anderson fought everyone the UFC put in front of him. You saying he avoided Weidman is ridiculous.
     
  8. Trybz

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    He should have the right to have input on who he faces, he's challenging the tougher guy anyway they will fight sooner or later a challenger is always wanting to fight the champ including waiting to fight but a champ can't call out a challenger he already beat Gus fair and square plus if he can handle school he knows he can beat Cain dc is the fight jones should get
     
  9. BionicCommando

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    Well he did. Or at least his management team did. It's documented that they turned down the fight with Weidman when it was first offered to Anderson Silva. Ultimately Anderson had done enough for the UFC where that wasn't made a big deal. Same reason why GSP passing on Hendricks to fight Nick Diaz wasn't a big deal.
     
  10. IngaVovchanchyn

    IngaVovchanchyn Titanium Belt Platinum Member

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    Usually fighters should be and are given a say so in who they fight. A fighter can turn down any fight.

    As a champ however you should fight the guy they put in front of you.
     
  11. MartyMcFry

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    When was the last time Jones fought someone he did not pick to fight? Vitor, but even then he declined to fight Sonnen. Jones is a fuckhead.
     
  12. Redhawks100

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    Why do you insist on making yourself look like a joke?

    If anything, shit like GSP avoiding Hendricks after his 3rd top 10 win for a fighter coming out of retirement and off of a loss is disgusting.
     
  13. Dart Feld

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    Jones "picked" Gus giving Alex the chance to jump ahead of Machida and get a title shot despite coming off pulling out days before a Sweden event.

    Wonder how that's always glossed over.

    Ftr here Jones' input during his reign.

    -Chooses to fight Page and Machida when injuries delay the Shad fight instead of waiting(ends up with 3 defenses in a year)
    -Did not want to give Chael a title shot. Eventually forced.
    -Did not want to give Vitor a title shot. Eventually forced.
    -Stated he'd prefer the fresher matchup between Machida and Gus.
    -Stated he'd prefer the fresher matchup between Gus and Glover.
    -Stated he'd prefer the fresher matchup between Cormier and Gus. Unconfirmed by Jones

    How is a fighting champion constantly seeking varying and deserving challenges a bad thing esp. when it's always a borderline arbitrary choice between top contenders?
     
  14. Buri

    Buri nolite flere cum animadversum

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  16. Tsarcasmic

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    Champion should always fight the #1 contender no matter what. If he's unavailable, he should fight the #2 contender.
     
  17. swing1st

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    Occassionally I think its ok. Yes...Gus became the 1st to really challenge Jones...he did some damage but he still lost fair and square. Jones is always looking to evolve...and to put his name in stone as one of the greatest. What better way..than to beat a hot new up n comer..who is running through everyone like Comier. Gus should go sit down and stfu.
     
  18. waiguoren

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    "very heated"

    seriously?
     
  19. Fight Professor

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    I would agree with the statement if the contenders were chosen by rankings. The problem is UFC tries to set fights that sell the most without any concern about the rest of the division.

    Why does Cain keep fighting the same opponents? Constant Frankie Edgar rematches were fun to watch but they had set the LW division back.

    A close decision is not a reason for an immediate rematch. Some fighters keep getting favorable matchups to get to the top quickly, while others take forever to get to the top. I am perfectly okay with the champ fighting twice a year as long as the contenders are more active and fight each other.
     
  20. 5H3RD0G

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    I think it's weak to choose your opponent especially if your champ. You have to let the fans choose your opponent for a challenge. :icon_chee If you want to see skyrocketing sales champs have to be like the old school take on all comers.
     

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