chael sonnen best win

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  1. WHITE ANDERSON

    WHITE ANDERSON Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    with all the recent debate about chael sonnen's supposed greatness, let's get clear about his fighting achievements.
    what was chael sonnen's best win?

    i would say it was against Nate Marquardt at UFC 109 in 2010. chael won a dominant UD 30-27 x3
    at the time, marquardt was the #2 middleweight in the world. he had a three fight win streak over demian maia (who was coming off a win over sonnen in his previous fight), wilson gouveia, and martin kampmann - all wins by stoppage.

    some people might say it was his win over Bisping. Bisping would go on to be champion of the division many years later and at the time he had a four fight win streak. However, Bisping was ranked lower than Chael due to Bisping's victories over low ranked fighters (Mayhem Miller, Jorge Rivera, etc.). Plus, it was not a clear victory for Chael - many people scored it for Bisping.

    some people even say Sonnen's best win was his submission victory over BJJ god and former UFC champ Shogun Rua. Shogun was coming off a loss (so was Chael) but he was still ranked top ten at LHW. Sonnen had never won at 205 in UFC and this would be his only victory at that weight class in the promotion

    disclaimer: chael is a known and admitted PED cheat, so all his victories are tainted.

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    he tapped shogun in like 30 seconds.. i like the nate win too but come on..its shogun
    (Edit it wasnt in 30 seconds it was with 13 seconds left in round 1,)


    i get its not 2005 shogun but its also not prime chael, and everyong thought shogun was gonna avenge wand and his nation and then bam tap out boi.

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    Biggest Chael fan. Would vote for Bisping win.
     
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    His biggest win is over former LHW champ Shogun and it's not close.

    Chael fought most of his career at 185. That victory a weight class up is his apex.
     
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    Anderson Silva probably
     
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    All of them - since Chael is still undisputed and undefeated.
    Peoples' champ!
     
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    He completely outclassed Brian Stann.
     
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    maybe you are misremembering because shogun tapped near the end of the round, but maybe you just mean chael tapped him quick once he went for the choke
     
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    I definitely am...i think i remembered with less than 30 seconds left... sorry shogun your a legend, didnt mean to hate on you broseph.


    thanks sherbro
     
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    Brian Stann imo.
     
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    Even that version of shogun shouldve put away sonnen. I was pretty upset but had to give chael credit for the quick and surprising way he finished. His "loss" to Anderson was actually his best win ...if thst makes any sense. He took the playbook from Lutter and was just relentless for 4 and a half rounds before Chaels Achilles heel reared its ugly head........his heart.
     
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    1 rua
    2 he almost win spider......but lost in the last 2 minutes of the tittle fight
    3 oleinik
    4 wand & page
    5 bisping, stann and okami
     
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    That wasn't a win (as you know), but it's honestly his biggest claim to fame. As Gus losing vs Jones and DC.
     
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    When he beat Jon Jones.
     
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    In what parallel universe can you hit a man 300 times, he wraps his legs around your head for eight seconds and they call him the winner?
     
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    Shogub is the best name
    Bisping is close.

    Personally, I liked his win over Stann. That was a round and a half of dominance and an excellent finish.
     
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    when he makes you quit
    and you test positive after
     
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    The way he manhandled Okami and Marquardt back to back was impressive.
     
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    Shogun wasn’t quite prime Shogun, as we all know... But he was still a very good LHW and not someone that is easy to tap... Very good win...

    But I lean toward the Marquardt win... think that was the best version/era of Nate during his entire career... Sure Nate had losses... every mma Legend / top-10 fighters have losses... I think In mma (and other sports, but in fighting it means more when talking of someone’s “best win”)... Fighters have periods where they are at their absolute best... weather they are true elites or journeymen... they will have a period in their careers where they were fighting / performing at the very best of their abilities...

    I think when Chael beat Nate... Nate was performing in that realm... And the very best Nate, in my opinion, is one of the best MW’s ever...

    I thought Chael might edge a round or two... But that eventually Marquardt was going to have him in a position that Chael wasn’t going to get out of and get the TKO... Didn’t happen.. close fight.. but Chael looked like a beast...

    The Stann win was nice as well...

    Just my 2-cents...
     
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  20. sonofjay817

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    Hands down, Chael's best win was his first loss against Anderson.
     

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