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Elections Canadian Federal Election 2019 Thread

Discussion in 'The War Room' started by Prokofievian, Aug 1, 2019.

  1. Err

    Err Brown Belt

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    At the expense of service members, make sure you include that. Obviously the provincial government shouldn’t be billing higher for individuals because they’re military, but to cut it without putting a system
    or program in place to mitigate the effects on the member is irresponsible. I’m not eligible for provincial health care, so if the provincial government can’t figure it out and the federal government doesn’t want to be responsible for it then we get hung out to dry.
     
  2. Devout Pessimist

    Devout Pessimist Traditional Catholic

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    According to CBC, the polls are currently indicating that the best the Trudeau liberals can hope for is a minority government. This is due to the BQ and NDP gaining in popularity. It is interesting that the media focused on Bernier splitting the vote with the conservatives, but it seems that the real issue is the NDP taking votes from the liberals. I just hope the NDP can take enough votes away for the conservatives to win at least a minority government.

    The CBC is also saying that the Greens are polling decently in BC which will also take away seats from the Liberals. It could be the Greens, NDP and Bloc that help take down the liberals. Bernier's party is a non-factor.

    Poll Tracker

    With the Bloc Québécois gaining in Quebec, the Liberals have lost their seat advantage over the Conservatives and are now neck-and-neck in both the national polls and the seat projection. A majority government looks unlikely. The New Democrats have seen their support levels increase since the English-language debate, while the Greens are holding their support.

    The regional picture
    The Conservatives are ahead in western Canada while the Liberals are ahead in Ontario, Quebec and Atlantic Canada. Both the Conservatives and Liberals have seen their support drop in Quebec as the Bloc rises. The New Democrats are on track to lose most or all of their seats in Quebec but can hold their seats and potentially make some gains in the rest of the country. The Greens are holding double-digits in B.C., where they can win seats, as well as in Atlantic Canada. The People's Party has yet to show the concentration of support in any region of the country needed to win a seat, beyond potentially leader Maxime Bernier's.
     
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  3. Wet Blanket

    Wet Blanket He / Him - Totally Radical Vegan Misanthrope

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    Liberal minority would be a good result IMO.
     
  4. Grenz

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    This is potentially worse than a liberal majority. The greens and the NDP have a number of policies that - if they’re workable at all - will cost billions of dollars, and their only answer on how to pay for those is “more taxes on the rich and corporations” (newsflash guys: people and corporations are actually free to leave Canada which they might do if you’re going to use them for funding your pie in the sky projects like national pharma and dental care). Then there’s the far left stance on social issues which are cornerstones of both platforms. If the Liberals form a minority and have to team up with the NDP or the Greens (or both), these utopian economic policies and far left social policies will work their way into legislation to some degree over the next few years. The liberals at least want to build a pipeline...the NDP wants to give each province veto powers over projects like pipelines, effectively ensuring that there will never be another pipeline built in Canada.

    I’m worried the conservatives are done. Their platform is the most practical, but they’re doing a piss poor job of properly getting that message out to Canadians and Scheer has remained just as uninspiring a leader throughout this campaign as before.

    What we’ll get is a government obsessed with solving climate change, reconciliation and further expanding our Medicare system which is already a massive burden on the budget. Seriously, if you count the Conservatives out (hopefully they’re not) you might be better off hoping for a Liberal majority than the SJW Frankenmonster that would be the alliance of the Canadian left.
     
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  5. flashNsmash

    flashNsmash when it rains...

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    a coalition if necessary, but not necessarily a coalition?

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  6. Crazy Diamond

    Crazy Diamond 2GM/c^2 belt

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    Sure, and you could well ask whether there was any intergovernmental discussion prior to the move; you could ask whether the provincial government should immediately move to cover the shortfall; and you could ask, why now, and are all the provinces like this? Because none of that information is available from the article. And why? Whatever could be the reason for the emphasis on "look at what the Trudeau government did, for shame" rather than on the context of what led up to it?
     
  7. Wet Blanket

    Wet Blanket He / Him - Totally Radical Vegan Misanthrope

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    This is exactly what I'm hoping for.

    Fingers crossed!
     
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  8. IGotAHugePeckah

    IGotAHugePeckah the least gay sherdogger

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    Liberal minority is not happening. Scheer is taking power, for better or for worse.
     
  9. Damien Karras

    Damien Karras Mirabile dichtu, don't you agree?

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    I really haven't been paying attention to polls., but let's not kid ourselves, it's either a Liberal or a Conservative government.
     
  10. IGotAHugePeckah

    IGotAHugePeckah the least gay sherdogger

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    Wow, that's a bold prediction, fella.

    Either a Liberal or Conservative government... kinda like it's been the last 152 years running?
     
  11. Grenz

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    Sincere question: why?
     
  12. Wet Blanket

    Wet Blanket He / Him - Totally Radical Vegan Misanthrope

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    My views align best with the NDP, second best with Liberals, then Greens. So, pretty much for the reasons you stated above.
     
  13. Wet Blanket

    Wet Blanket He / Him - Totally Radical Vegan Misanthrope

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    You don't think the BQ will form government?
     
  14. Damien Karras

    Damien Karras Mirabile dichtu, don't you agree?

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    yeah I'm fully aware it wasn't a big statement. But it could very well be a Liberal minority, I don't know why you're saying it is not happening.
     
  15. IGotAHugePeckah

    IGotAHugePeckah the least gay sherdogger

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    I think the NDP and Jug-meat will take a big bite out of the Libs voting base.
     
  16. Devout Pessimist

    Devout Pessimist Traditional Catholic

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    Will the CBC get their big payday if the liberals win a minority?
     
  17. Grenz

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    Which views exactly? Healthcare? Environment? Housing? Etc.
     
  18. IGotAHugePeckah

    IGotAHugePeckah the least gay sherdogger

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    The view of his innards, because like the leaders of those parties his head is planted far up his ass.
     
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  19. Wet Blanket

    Wet Blanket He / Him - Totally Radical Vegan Misanthrope

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    Environmentalism, indigenous issues (UNDRIP), pipelines, healthcare, pharmacare, education.
     
  20. Bald1

    Bald1 War Room Can

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    Pipelines? I'm assuming you're against them, but for what reason?
     
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