can you solve this riddle?

[Deleted member 429137]

I could not. I've always been horrible at these.

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2 will shout first because he knows that if he and 3 had the same colour hats then 1 would have shouted first.

 

[ventrue]

I was gonna say player 1, but I think I will go w/ player 2.

It all depends on if player one shouts out or not.

 

[TigerUpperKut]

couldn't they just look up and see the color of the brims?

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but you got the answer right ts, 2 would shout first for the reason you stated. at least it makes sense. and then 3 would shout for the same reason why 2 shouts. the thing I'm trying to figure out is who would shout next and why

 

[MadSquabbles500]

Those hats look kind of big. Can they see what color they are wearing? If the question does not specify whether they can or cannot do this, then you cannot answer this.

 

[Stargazer Rex]

I like turtles.

 

[dabausplaya]

So how can you say it wouldn't be 1 instead of 2?

 

[zackryder]

between 2 & 1 cuz 3 & 4 cannot see any of the hats. 1 will have a 50% chance of getting his hat right cuz he sees both colors in front of him. time should not factor in 1s decision b/c regardless he has a 50% of getting it right.

im guessin the solution depends on 1. if he (1) says anything. 2 will have a 66% chance of getting his right if he picks white

wait wat? does this even make sense? dude im trippin out cuz of the math. w) less available info, 2 has a higher probability of getting it right? math ppl m i trippin out?

 

[Chomsky Honk]

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Whats the next step after #2 says his hat is white

Edit: Ok, so 3 knows that he and 2 are different based on 1 not talking, so he must be black

how does 1 and 4 know

 

[TigerUpperKut]

So how can you say it wouldn't be 1 instead of 2?

how would 1 know what color he has?

this is assuming they can't see the color of their own hat.

 

[Reyesnuthugr]

Yep there's a good chance #1 will get nervous and guess-shout out of pressure (probably choosing black), knowing he can see the most out of anyone, and only one of the other four can even see anything

 

[TigerUpperKut]

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Whats the next step after #2 says his hat is white

Edit: Ok, so 3 knows that he and 2 are different based on 1 not talking, so he must be black

how does 1 and 4 know

that's racist

but seriously, that's where i'm stuck too. it seems 1 and 4 has to guess

 

[Basil**]

I couldn't figure it out, but the solution is very logical.

 

[zackryder]

not even into the riddle rite now. how does 2 have a higher prob of getting it right over 1 w) less info? can some math person explain?

 

[dabausplaya]

how would 1 know what color he has?

this is assuming they can't see the color of their own hat.

What if the two guys in front of him have black hats? Or they both have white hats? Than he would know what color hat he had. Number one is the most likely to shout first.

Edit: I didn't see that the picture actually showed the color hats they have.

 

[Nonsense]

Number 2, because number 3 has black and the fact that number 1 didn't yell white means that he doesn't know his own colour, meaning number 2 and 3 don't have the same colour, meaning 2 is necessarily white.

So 2.

 

[Basil**]

Why are you guys trying to figure out a sequence? The riddle is just who yells first, not figure out the order of them yelling. This isn't an LSAT exam.

 

[Nonsense]

What if the two guys in front of him have black hats? Or they both have white hats? Than he would know what color hat he had. Number one is the most likely to shout first. He has the most information.

The pic shows that 2 and 3 don't have the same colour, silly.

 

[dabausplaya]

The pic shows that 2 and 3 don't have the same colour, silly.

I was too late. Edited my post.

 

[ventrue]

I am horrible at math and do not even know if this is some sort of probability question or not.

I just used basic common sense.

If 1 shouts, he would have to see either 2 black or white hats.
If 1 doesn't shout, 2 and 3 are wearing different hats.
2 now has the advantage, because he knows that 1 didn't shout. 3 is wearing a black hat, so that would mean that 2 has to be wearing a white hat.

 

[TigerUpperKut]

What if the two guys in front of him have black hats? Or they both have white hats? Than he would know what color hat he had. Number one is the most likely to shout first.

Edit: I didn't see that the picture actually showed the color hats they have.

yea, it'd be easy if 2 and 3 had the same color though. but since they don't, 1 has no idea what his could be. it would be a 50/50 guess. at least that's where i'm stuck at. but the riddle just asks who'd shout first so it seems 2 is the logical answer

edit: just saw your edit. try to keep up man

Number 2, because number 3 has black and the fact that number 1 didn't yell black means that he doesn't know his own colour, meaning number 2 and 3 don't have the same colour, meaning 2 is necessarily white.

So 2.

3 would shout next for that same reason

what I wanna know is who out of 1 and 4 would go next and why?