Can we finally agree, Alistair Overeem, would murder JDS?

The Skilled Won said:
reem is a superior striker...was that ever debated? NO...doesnt change the fact hes been knocked the fuck out so many times by guys who were clearly less skilled then him at striking...thats the main thing...as good as reem is at striking, he stays getting knocked the fuck out...good striking doesnt equal good chin...
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your stuck in the past man, the shit your talking about wasn't even in the same division, gtfo.
 
soccerkick666 said:
All of this talk about junior's boxing taking out the reem was silly, hope nobody still believes this, JDS striking is nothing compared to a k1 WGP champion, he can't even ko an wrestler lol.
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Why would we agree on that? Overoid would never have JDS worried for the takedowns like Cain did, and he wouldn't be able to take the battle into deep waters, he would gass first, and his chin is not nearly as tough as that of Junior, so no, Overoid has nothing to do with this fight, Cain won, he beat Junior, he deserves all the credit, Overoid on the other hand deserves to be called a cheater and unworthy to be compared to Junior or Cain.
 
no overeem will lose to jds

but first he'll lose to big foot
 
Differnce being that Overeem remains very chinny. He's been KO'd by LHWs and gets rocked in most of his fights. I guarantee he can't take a flush shot from JDS. He has more diverse striking, sure; but he also has horrible striking defense.
 
Same Overeem who couldn't outstrike a BJJ guy in Werdum? Two can play that game.
 
GustavoWar said:
Why would we agree on that? Overoid would never have JDS worried for the takedowns like Cain did, and he wouldn't be able to take the battle into deep waters, he would gass first, and his chin is not nearly as tough as that of Junior, so no, Overoid has nothing to do with this fight, Cain won, he beat Junior, he deserves all the credit, Overoid on the other hand deserves to be called a cheater and unworthy to be compared to Junior or Cain.
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doesn't matter, standing still with shitty head movement will get you ko'd by the reem.

these are facts.
 
The Skilled Won said:
reem is a superior striker...was that ever debated? NO...doesnt change the fact hes been knocked the fuck out so many times by guys who were clearly less skilled then him at striking...thats the main thing...as good as reem is at striking, he stays getting knocked the fuck out...good striking doesnt equal good chin...
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Reem also arguably had the easiest road to the WGP champion ever, he beat Spong legit, he kicked Saki in his broken arm, and Aerts was done after the Schilt fight.
 
soccerkick666 said:
yes, but alistair overeem isn't an light heavyweight anymore, and he doesn't cut so much weight he literally pisses blood before fights anymore(something you probably were unaware of)

and like I just said, take everybody who has beat him like shogun and chuck, throw them in against him right here and now in the HW division, and see if history repeats itself.
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who needs shogun or chuck when you have jds or cain...both of them would easily knock overeem str8 the fuck out...those new muscles dont replace that old ratchet ass chin...overeem would still be the superior striker that gets knocked the fuck out by smaller inferior strikers...nothing new...this is his career...somehow youre not aware of this
 
GustavoWar said:
Why would we agree on that? Overoid would never have JDS worried for the takedowns like Cain did, and he wouldn't be able to take the battle into deep waters, he would gass first, and his chin is not nearly as tough as that of Junior, so no, Overoid has nothing to do with this fight, Cain won, he beat Junior, he deserves all the credit, Overoid on the other hand deserves to be called a cheater and unworthy to be compared to Junior or Cain.
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hahaha dude shut up.
 
I'd still pick JDS over Reem. Did you even watch the match? Cain wore JDS out by grappling with him and not allowing him to fight within range. The usual JDS style of fighting in range and utilizing his jab didn't work because Cain was unrelentless in wearing Cigano out via takedown attempts and cage walling.

Overeem does not have the same pace as Cain nor the grappling capability. He would be susceptible to JDS' strikes and setups.
 
how high said:
Same Overeem who couldn't outstrike a BJJ guy in Werdum? Two can play that game.
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overeem wasn't rocked by werdum.
cain was throwing strikes while standing, outclassing junior on the feet, out boxing junior, landing at will with ease and wasn't jumping on his ass constantly.

2 dif fights, werdum made it impossible to even fight he kept laying down.

cain just boxed with junior and proved junior's boxing can't be compared to somebody who is an actual striker like reem.
 
FlyThai said:
Fuck no. JDS still KOs Reem.

Also Cain is going to finish Reem when they fight
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this X10

You guys are completely irrational

How does Cain outworking JDS mean that Overeem beats JDS?!?!? They are different fighters...
 
soccerkick666 said:
All of this talk about junior's boxing taking out the reem was silly, hope nobody still believes this, JDS striking is nothing compared to a k1 WGP champion, he can't even ko an wrestler lol.
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You're stupid, but the only reason dos Santos got owned is Cain's wrestling ability and crazy cardio. IMO with overeem jds would easily take his time and imo JDS's chin > Overeem's chin.
I think JDS would wreck Overeem.
 
Schatje said:
The best boxer with the best td defense in the HW division got outstruck simply because of his opponents wrestling? Talk about retarded.
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You don't know anything about MMA and need to either go educate yourself, or die in hole. Either one would make the world a better place and is therefore fine with me.
 
Pretty sure JDS would still clean Overeems clock. Strikers can't fight their best fight cause of fear of the TD, especially when its a wrestler like Cain. I don't give a fuck how JDS got handled tonight, he still smashes Reem.
 
Reem will have to bullrush JDS in the first round with a barrage of knees & kicks to gas him. Then he has a chance of finishing him.

If JDS lands on Reem's chin before this happens he will get ko'd.
 
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