Yeah good point, you need a perfect storm to be #1.
that's how i see it. tyson struggled against anybody that actually fought back, he didn't like adversity and would break the rules the moment the going got tough. he was doing it well before the evander fight.
me too era. So, i have to say, no, it wouldn't have changed much with cus or rooney. maybe inside the ring he would have done better but he still would have been a sucker for those bitches.
he was special and d'amato never had a fighter better suited to his peculiar style, it was a match made in heaven. Money distorts everything though, women and fame distort everything, even with mentally strong guys like ali who always had to have a tribe of loosers around him and his muslims. It's true that Cus didn't finish his final project but I think the mental weaknesses in mike may not have been fixable. Mike and everyone else claim that Cus was the one figure who could have kept him from imploding but I'm skeptical. Don King would have still come along, the whores would have still went to his hotel rooms, and he wasn't very smart about staying out of trouble. He's lucky he was in that era, he'd never get off the ground in this
Tyson was the classic bully mentality, many boxing experts have said this and tyson himself admit it. He would try to intimidate you early scare you and then if you showed no fear like holyfield and fought back just like an insecure bully he would crumble.
You are not understanding anything, you are already offended i never insulted his skills. I said he had the skills and talent, he just lacked heart, you seem to not get that through your thick head. He didn't have a warrior heart. He was built up knocking out scrubs on espn, what age did you start watching Tyson?
Not so sure about that. Mike was completely under Cus' spell. He would have blindly killed people had Cus ordered him to. Ironically, Cus was also very permissive with Tyson and allowed him to get away with shit he didn't tolerate from other people (like harassing Teddy's sister) to gain Mike's trust and affection. The old man was smart as a fox and extremely manipulative. I'm sure he would have found a way to keep mike in line. Maybe by allowing him to have plenty of sex in his house after each victory or something like that. It's hard for me to imagine Cus not being able to control Tyson given how succesful he was in training him in all aspects of life. I mean, dude initially came to Cus' house in order to rob him and ended up staying there permanently and cleaning his own room.he was special and d'amato never had a fighter better suited to his peculiar style, it was a match made in heaven. Money distorts everything though, women and fame distort everything, even with mentally strong guys like ali who always had to have a tribe of loosers around him and his muslims. It's true that Cus didn't finish his final project but I think the mental weaknesses in mike may not have been fixable. Mike and everyone else claim that Cus was the one figure who could have kept him from imploding but I'm skeptical. Don King would have still come along, the whores would have still went to his hotel rooms, and he wasn't very smart about staying out of trouble. He's lucky he was in that era, he'd never get off the ground in this
maybe, Mike says in his bio that cus had a paranoia that mike would leave him, probably just because of the traumas of earlier fighters leaving him, and tyson said he'd never have left cus. talk is cheap though, fame would have tested the relationship like nothing else, as it often does. Don King would have still been there planting bullshit in Mike's mind, the women? the women were a major problem, first robin givens, then desiree washington, cus wouldn't have been able to stop that from going on I don't think. Most men have serious issues with women, Ali did too and it certainly didn't help him, or joe louis or henry armstrong.
