Can the fertittas just start a new promotion and rival the UFC?

[Kingz]

If they intended to do that, they would have made sure to bring the bald guy with them.

 

[Magx951]

Again, you show your ignorance. Ofcourse the landscape is different, but if you think the Fertitas can't put something like this together and make it profitable with the current financial backing they have, you're just hilariously uninformed.
And that's exactly what I said. If it can be done once, it can be done again, regardless of circumstances. I see why you have yellow cards though, you can't put together a coherent argument without resorting to OMFGG RETARD OMFG MONGOOLOID.

who said they COULDN'T make it profitable?

Over a long enough time, of course they could.

The question is, is it a smart idea? No
are there any advantages to this over literally any other way they can use their money? No
Is there any reason to sell their business where they completely dominate the market, only to make a competitor where it'll be extremely slow to catch up? No

I'm calling you a retard/mongoloid because you are one, not because my arguments depend upon it. There's a difference. If you were intelligent, you would realize that ad hominem is NOT what I am doing, I am merely insulting you at the same time as presenting an actual argument.

 

[FinBJJ]

As if the company was bought by a bunch of goofs with no business skills, who just happened to run across 4 fucking billion dollars, who didn't think of including a non-compete clause.

 

[oswald1]

Why the fuck would they do that

 

[Jkaylor]

So, did the UFC have any brand or asset value at the start of the venture? Ofcourse not. That's why you build something that's worth a lot, out of something that's worth a little, and this is even easier if you have massive amounts of money to pour into it. The fact that you don't understand this, speaks a lot to your intelligence. The fact that you have to resort to ad hominum even more.

Fertitas financial backing would make it very easy to market something like this, they would obviously need a different spin on it, and to sign new fighters.

And to the question to I think it's possible, obviously. Do I think it's a good idea? Probably not.

The first time around there was no monopolizing entity in the industry

 

[Ballsaque]

who said they COULDN'T make it profitable?

Over a long enough time, of course they could.

The question is, is it a smart idea? No
are there any advantages to this over literally any other way they can use their money? No
Is there any reason to sell their business where they completely dominate the market, only to make a competitor where it'll be extremely slow to catch up? No

I'm calling you a retard/mongoloid because you are one, not because my arguments depend upon it. There's a difference. If you were intelligent, you would realize that ad hominem is NOT what I am doing, I am merely insulting you at the same time as presenting an actual argument.

Who said it was? You implied that they should get their old UFC fighters out of their contract (rofl). I just pointed out there was easily another way that it could be done, and a brand build up around it, until it was worth a lot of money again. Bellator did it, though it's obviously not worth the same amount of money. Never said it was a good idea, not once.

With the Fertitas connections, and experience in the field, they would be able to secure a lot of deals from the get go.

 

[Lanx]

Fertittas didn't start shit.

Dana White with this crystal ball saw how big MMA would be, he said "I Need Rich ppl", and thats where the Fertittas came in.

 

[BigNuggetIce]

Obviously they are not going to take the fighters from the UFC for god sake. They could literally buy Bellator and Rizin and put it together if they wanted.

They still wouldn't have that ufc brand tho. The ufc brand was what was worth 4 billion dollars. Without that ufc brand, it would be difficult. They would basically have to build another brand & that can take many years.

 

[Karaev fan]

So.. they're going to sell their business, which had it's worth because of it's assets, and then.. create a new business without those assets in the hopes that they get them back?

This thread should have ended here.

The guys I see arguing against this and failing to see their insane tautology needs to be stripped of their right to vote.

 

[Darwinambrosius]

TS has made a reasonable question. With all the know-how they have, they would be able to build a big MMA org way easier than 99% of managers.

Several replies seem concerned and don't get why the Fertittas would do that after selling the UFC. There are 4 billions reasons.

There's almost a guaranteed non-compete clause in place, so it's not really a reasonable question.

 

[Maladroit]

Sorry TS, but this is the most stupid thread I've seen today. They just sold the most recognizable MMA brand in the world. The 2nd doesn't even come close. They would need years and tons of money to reach the top with a new org. And they probably could never be profitable. Affliction couldn't sell PPVs even with Fedor, Belfort and others.

 

[EXOICHO]

This thread should have ended here.

The guys I see arguing against this and failing to see their insane tautology needs to be stripped of their right to vote.

the worst is the backpedalling. that one retard went from telling him he knew nothing about business and gave him "tips" and then after exposed said "yeah but I never actually said it was a GOOD IDEA!"

 

[Corleone187]

It's actually possible and has been done before

The McDonalds brothers did it. You know that place McDonalds? the famous hamburger joint?

What eventually happened was Ray Kroc (the guy who bought it off them) had to build a McDonalds next to them in order to put them out of business lol

 

[moreorless87]

Where would almost certainly be a non compete clause involved although if they did try moving into MMA again in the future I would say there main asset would actually be themselves and potentially Dana. A not inconsiderable part of the UFC fanbase is actually quite heavily emotionally invested in there business success.

 

[HOV]

I'm not the most businesses savvy individual nor do I ever pretend to be...but that sounds like a stupid fucking idea...

 

[JT RIPPER]

So let's get this straight, you think they'd make a $4B deal and the new owners won't have some non compete clauses in place?

Forget the fact that they've still got a small ownership percentage, they're gonna start or buy out a new promotion and start from the bottom to rival their original brand?

You might be able to pull that BS if you started/sold a coffee shop or dry cleaning biz. Something tells me this new ownership group don't fuck around. They are giants in the media and/or entertainment biz and it's prob not a wise idea to pull something like that.

 

[Pacemaker Joe]

Might be a no-compete clause

I'd be surprised if they didn't. The higher-ups at pride had one when Zuffa bought them, it just expired before they founded Rizin. I think they got out of it to move on to other things though.

 

[SuBB]

So.. they're going to sell their business, which had it's worth because of it's assets, and then.. create a new business without those assets in the hopes that they get them back?

why wouldn't they?? that's the question.

 

[Dertysandal]

TS has made a reasonable question. With all the know-how they have, they would be able to build a big MMA org way easier than 99% of managers.

Several replies seem concerned and don't get why the Fertittas would do that after selling the UFC. There are 4 billions reasons.

Thank you. I mean why wouldn't they even if they own many casinos, have the funds and the name recognition which some fighters actually enjoyed fighting for

 

[Dertysandal]

Sorry TS, but this is the most stupid thread I've seen today. They just sold the most recognizable MMA brand in the world. The 2nd doesn't even come close. They would need years and tons of money to reach the top with a new org. And they probably could never be profitable. Affliction couldn't sell PPVs even with Fedor, Belfort and others.

They have the time, they have the money. What's so stupid?