Can someone please explain Jon Jones' PED history/infractions?

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  1. Bojka

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    1. tests positive for 2 substances used to control estradiol (and estrogen receptor activity) with the use of aromatizing anabolic steroids
    2. Tests positive for a non-aromatizing anabolic steroid

    Hell of a coincidence that he tested positive for 2 substances you'd use together and then for a substance that you'd use if you didn't want to use the first 2.
     
  2. Tuf_guy

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    That was more of a Rogan theory, from my recollection.
    (Paraphrased) "Sometimes cocaine is cut with creatine. Maybe Jon Jones snorted some coke that was cut with creatine which was tainted with a banned substance."
     
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  3. Captain Herb

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    Actually the rest does matter because he was fighting on steroids, lol. And that kick was not a high kick, it was about 4 1/2 feet off the ground but whatever.
     
  4. eddi

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    Why did he hide below the octagon for 12h then
     
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    Hotora86 be nice or Machida will crane kick your ass

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    Hard to explain if you don't have a medical background.

    But he got busted for a substance he took either intentionally or unintentionally. It was in trace amounts and unlikely to give him an advantage. Probably the same advantage as DC and KG got cheating the scales for a few pounds. Still, he broke the rules. Served his time and came back.

    And in the last year has beaten 3 of the top ranked LHWs
     
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  7. Oooxente

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    It was just a coinkdink.
     
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    Nice to see someone knows the truth
     
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    randomg1t EVERYTIME CHAMPION

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    gets tested and has ridiculous T/E levels. not against the rules, but let's not shit ourselves here.

    gets caught with masking agents, and blames them on dick pills. can't even go through his hearing without stumbling all over himself, is granted clemency anyway.

    gets caught with turinabol. USADA determines he is innocent through an arbiter, who interviews jones and decides he must've taken tainted supplements. that's it. they didn't find a tainted supplement, someone talked to jon jones and determined he couldn't have taken steroids. this was after he was caught with suspicious T/E levels and busted for masking agents.

    gets caught with turinabol for the second time, USADA etermines it is residual from his previous infraction, despite there being absolutely no peer reviewed scientific research done to support this. it's just a pinch of roids in a swimming pool.

    poor jones, everyone is out there to get him and it's totally not fair.
     
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  11. kellier

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    Google turinabol
     
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    Hirashin World class striking

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    DIck pills
     
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    This pretty much sums it up.
     
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    He had T-Levels of a 80 year old before USADA. Super clear sign of getting off a roid cycle. Just not punishable.
    His former friends and teammates say he roids since high school.
    He needs dick pills, because his body has problems producing testosterone, because of the abuse
    He hid under a cage
    All three brothers clearly roid
    His brother was caught, too
    [​IMG]
     
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    basically jones was framed and was confirmed innocent thanks to USADA!
     
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    I for one give Jones the benefit of the doubt cause I'm naive af
     
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    Basically Jon Jones is like every other high level athlete and takes Creatine with BCAAs.

    if caught someone sprinkled them accidentally in his weetbix.

    Dumb and gullible people actually believe stuff like that happens and that sports are 95% clean

    If the people who run the organisation he participates in can get him off with money under the table he gets off.

    Rinse and repeat for every other athlete.
     
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    Really? Noone is going to respond to this very legit timeline?
    @acannxr hit it out of the park. /thread
     
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    Good post, but clomiphene and letrozole aren’t masking agents and aren’t used as such.

    Also his dick pill excuse had some shaaaady stuff, too. He got the pill from his teammate (you know how it goes.. you go out with your teammate, party, share some dick pills.. the usual), who had ordered the dick pills from a totally legit and legal webshop. Said teammate provided the invoice for those dick pills, but it was proven that it wasn’t the right order so it couldn’t have been the right invoice.

    Okay, no biggie, he had other invoices up in his sleeve! You get an invoice, you get an invoice, everybody gets an invoice! On this invoice, however, there was more than just ”dick pills”. It also contained an order for clomiphene - a substance banned by WADA and available only with a prescription. Like from a real doctor.

    So if Jon really just took the dick pill(s) and not the banned substance... Why did they try to hide the fact that he/they also ordered clomiphene, that is used often as a post steroid cycle substance? Post cycle stuff that you can read everything about all that from the internets. Anyway..

    I guess we all can have our own opinions about what happened and if Jones is a cheat.

    :rolleyes:
     
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  20. TrueFightFan

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    "Moral condemnation" is about all he is getting. His suspensions are reduced, he gets to keep fighting, he is now cleared to fight "juiced"... "Haters going to hate" doesn't begin to cover this in the slightest.
     
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