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If 1905 laws on religion (which were ruthlessly applied to French Catholicism) were actually applied in France, most Mosques would be closed and Islam would be restrained. Admitedly, Mr Darmanin started this process.
As to criticising Islam in France, I would refer everyone to the Mila affair (Mila is a 18 year old French girl that was threatened with hundred of thousands of threats of rape and beheadings by our lovely Moslem compatriots, when she dared say that the prophet could go F himself).
No its not safe to criticise Islam in France.
1- Your claim about the 1905 law :
Please stop trying to spread misinformation to people here just because they're not french and do not know our context and history. The 1905 law separating the church and the state is based on 2 big principles : the neutrality of the state and the freedom of religious exercise. At not point it says you can't have churchs, synagogues, mosques or Buddhist or Hinduism temples. On the contrary those religious places are opened on the basis on this law everytime. Here are the first two articles that proves that it does at no point forbid to open religious places :
- Article 1 described the purpose of the act as to ensure "freedom of conscience" and to guarantee "the free exercise of religion under the provisos enacted hereafter in the interest of public order."[25]
- Article 2 stated "The Republic does not recognize, pay, or subsidize any religious sect. Accordingly, from 1 January following the enactment of this law, there will be removed from state budgets, departments and municipalities, all expenses related to the exercise of religion."[25] Exceptions are ennumerated regarding "schools, colleges, hospitals, asylums and prisons" so as "to ensure the free exercise of religion in public institutions".[25]
And here's the Wikipedia page with the full law content for those interested : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1905_French_law_on_the_Separation_of_the_Churches_and_the_State
You can hate Islam and want it out, but if you have to lie and manipulate facts to make your points validity diminishes your claim. Be more mature and stop doing that. It's for your own good.
2- Mila affair
This affair is nothing. She literally received threats from anonymous idiots on Twitter, and then everybody overreacted because the media needed their daily dose of Islam bashing and she a big tour on all the big french media and even got to write a book and sell it. Very lucrative stuff. If getting threatened by anonymous troll idiots on Twitter is a big deal then give me protection too because it happens to me also. It even happens to professional fighters. That's nothing.
We're literally in the western country where you have the most freedom to attack and criticize Islam, and facts say so. It's ok everyone is free to voice his opinion I'm not even saying stop or anything. But just saying don't lie claiming "it's dangerous to criticize Islam in France". The president said Islam was in crisis, just last year after the terrorist attack against the poor history teacher big cartoons insulting Islam were projected on the facades of buildings all across France, Zemmour attacks islam daily on prime time on C News for a year saying stuff like "you can't compare Islam to Nazism because Nazism is a bit rigid it's true but Islam is way worse" "Muslims have to abandon their religion if they want to remain french" and else , the prime minister Darmanin saying to Marine Le Pen herself that "she's soft on Islam because him he will attack Islam as a whole and not just extremism", the right to wear or not to wear hijab in open space like the street or a park being a source of debate now because hey why not go that far, mosques/muslim school/muslim charities being closed left and right, yeah people are pretty free to criticize Islam here, again not even deploring it just stating facts.
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