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maybe not the most effective things around but lots of fun!
I have a Cold Steel Bali Song my dad, the knife nut, bought me for Xmas a couple years ago. Been flipping butterfly knifes for about 20 years, and that one is far and away the best. Great balance, very fluid, and out of the box it was sharp enough to shave with (though it could probably stand a few licks over a wetstone by now). I find that when closed, it fills the punching hand and provides a nice pommel-like striking surface for hammerfist strikes...rather versatile piece of cutlery.
I can't do anything quite a fancy-pantsed as that dude, but I can easily do the regular and the traditional Filipino inverted open (ends with the blade pointing to the floor) which for practical purposes is all you need. Opening and closing really only requires three quick movements; opening and closing it rapidly and mixing in a couple twirls, it looks a lot more impressive and difficult-looking than it realy is.
It's kind of a nice, Zen-like exercise (kind of like flipping a coin over your fingers or working the Chinese hand balls.
I can't do anything quite a fancy-pantsed as that dude, but I can easily do the regular and the traditional Filipino inverted open (ends with the blade pointing to the floor) which for practical purposes is all you need. Opening and closing really only requires three quick movements; opening and closing it rapidly and mixing in a couple twirls, it looks a lot more impressive and difficult-looking than it realy is.
It's kind of a nice, Zen-like exercise (kind of like flipping a coin over your fingers or working the Chinese hand balls.
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to get good with a knife, you want to spend time with it,
a Butterfly knife encourages that.
so maybe it is a really GREAT knife.
a Butterfly knife encourages that.
so maybe it is a really GREAT knife.
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1st and foremost these things are illegal.
so get a training one. (no sharp edges)
if you can't afford those, do what I did, buy a cheap $5 one and smash the
edge so you can practice the CRAP out of it without killing your hand.
but eventually you will want a good quality one, and it will feel like royal butter
on your hands esp after you have been practicing with the piece of crap one.
I don't know if the Szabo one is better than the cold steel one, I've seen a few
custom mades ones and they are suppose to be A class, but so is the price!
so get a training one. (no sharp edges)
if you can't afford those, do what I did, buy a cheap $5 one and smash the
edge so you can practice the CRAP out of it without killing your hand.
but eventually you will want a good quality one, and it will feel like royal butter
on your hands esp after you have been practicing with the piece of crap one.
I don't know if the Szabo one is better than the cold steel one, I've seen a few
custom mades ones and they are suppose to be A class, but so is the price!
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VampireMonk balisongs are not illegal everywhere, in fact in most states they are legal to own but illegal to carry while in others they are even legal to carry.
Also, the Benchmade 42 is considered by almost everyone as the best production balisong to own, but it does cost around $150. If you re just getting into balisongs I suggest you get a cheap Chinese one to see if you like it, if you do I would then suggest you buy either the Spyderco Spyderfly or the Benchmade Model 42, the Spyderco is only $65. For training I myself leave the edge sharp, if there is no consequence for messing up (getting cut) then you easily pick up bad habits. However if you do want to train with one that will not cut you just tape the blade and you can only get hurt by the very tip.
Finally just as a side note the balisong is the strongest folding knife when opened in other words the way it "locks" is the strongest locking mechanism. The handles would actually have to break in two for the knife to fold.
JamEs
Also, the Benchmade 42 is considered by almost everyone as the best production balisong to own, but it does cost around $150. If you re just getting into balisongs I suggest you get a cheap Chinese one to see if you like it, if you do I would then suggest you buy either the Spyderco Spyderfly or the Benchmade Model 42, the Spyderco is only $65. For training I myself leave the edge sharp, if there is no consequence for messing up (getting cut) then you easily pick up bad habits. However if you do want to train with one that will not cut you just tape the blade and you can only get hurt by the very tip.
Finally just as a side note the balisong is the strongest folding knife when opened in other words the way it "locks" is the strongest locking mechanism. The handles would actually have to break in two for the knife to fold.
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legal to own illegal to carry?
I got to carry it home after I buy it! LOL
bench made if not mistaken have some good trainers,
about the bad habits, I think learning from mistakes are great
unless they really hurt you. So I encourage it.
deepend your understanding.
as for Balisong being the strongest folder,
not the handles, all it takes is the little screws holding it to break off.
that is more likely my friend.
I got to carry it home after I buy it! LOL
bench made if not mistaken have some good trainers,
about the bad habits, I think learning from mistakes are great
unless they really hurt you. So I encourage it.
deepend your understanding.
as for Balisong being the strongest folder,
not the handles, all it takes is the little screws holding it to break off.
that is more likely my friend.
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A better idea than smashing the blade - tape it with duct tape. It'll save the blade - and your hand when you fuck up.
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I thought of the duct tape thing, not sure how well it would work,
like I said my balisong was $5, I'm glad I smashed the blade,
no regrets. I play with it almost everyday.
like I said my balisong was $5, I'm glad I smashed the blade,
no regrets. I play with it almost everyday.
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Vampire Monk,I don't mean do sound like I am trying to prove you wrong but the balisong is the strongest locking knife there is, the only thing stronger than a "bali" is a fixed blade. The only way for a balisong to fail is for the actual pins to shear which takes thousands of pounds per square inch(PSI) or the handles to break in two. Any other locking mechanism will fail before a "bali."
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1) There's no such thing as a crappy Benchmade knife, period.
2) This goes for the Balisong. It's got titanium handles and a 440 stainless blade; the pins that retain the tang to the handles I believe are also titanium. I can't imagine snapping a Benchmade Balisong unless you decided to use it to pry manhole covers open or something.
3) I'd have to check to be sure, but I thing Benchmade guarantees their product for life, so it shouldn't be a concern anyway.
4) If you're a novice to the Balisong, I agree that getting a decent-sized cheapo with a not-so-sharp blade is the way to go. I can tell you my Benchmade was sharp enough to shave with out of the box, and I nicked my fingers up good a couple times when I first got it (mind you, I'd been twirling butterfly knives off and on for about 20 years at the time). Benchmade makes training blades also, which I think you can remove and replace with the real deal later (again, I'd need to check to be sure).
5) there's a guy who started making good quality, low-cost butterfly knives a year or two ago; I bought a couple for gifts, they're good and only about $30. I'll see if I can find out who he is and post a link.
2) This goes for the Balisong. It's got titanium handles and a 440 stainless blade; the pins that retain the tang to the handles I believe are also titanium. I can't imagine snapping a Benchmade Balisong unless you decided to use it to pry manhole covers open or something.
3) I'd have to check to be sure, but I thing Benchmade guarantees their product for life, so it shouldn't be a concern anyway.
4) If you're a novice to the Balisong, I agree that getting a decent-sized cheapo with a not-so-sharp blade is the way to go. I can tell you my Benchmade was sharp enough to shave with out of the box, and I nicked my fingers up good a couple times when I first got it (mind you, I'd been twirling butterfly knives off and on for about 20 years at the time). Benchmade makes training blades also, which I think you can remove and replace with the real deal later (again, I'd need to check to be sure).
5) there's a guy who started making good quality, low-cost butterfly knives a year or two ago; I bought a couple for gifts, they're good and only about $30. I'll see if I can find out who he is and post a link.
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Gregster great points!
1.) 100% Agree
2.) The pins are hardened stainless steel(just as strong as titanium)
3.) It is a limited lifetime warranty, they only cover defects in workmanship or manufacturing. If you were to pry with it and it broke you would have to pay o get it fixed. They do have a nice program called LifeSharp which for a $5 fee you can return the knife and they will put a new factory edge on it and make sure everything is working correctly.
4.) Again I agree about the cheap as a stated in my first post. Benchmade does make training balisongs but they are the whole knife(titanium handles and all).
5.) I would be interested to try one if you do find their site.
JamEs
1.) 100% Agree
2.) The pins are hardened stainless steel(just as strong as titanium)
3.) It is a limited lifetime warranty, they only cover defects in workmanship or manufacturing. If you were to pry with it and it broke you would have to pay o get it fixed. They do have a nice program called LifeSharp which for a $5 fee you can return the knife and they will put a new factory edge on it and make sure everything is working correctly.
4.) Again I agree about the cheap as a stated in my first post. Benchmade does make training balisongs but they are the whole knife(titanium handles and all).
5.) I would be interested to try one if you do find their site.
JamEs
Redman0889 said:
I'll ask my dad; he was one of the guys I bought it for, since I've been trying to get him interested in butterfly knives since he is a *very* serious knife collector and didn't have one in his collection. He actually gave me my Balisong as a Xmas present when I mentioned in passing how much I'd like to have one; I'd have reciprocated, but I didn't have that kinda swag burning a hole in my pocket at the time, and plus I think he's leery of flipping them around.
P.S. Speaking on Benchmades: my best friend, while not a genuine knife nut, loves the Benchmades. He bought his little brother one for a gift, a Benchmade tactical folder. His brother, it should be noted, is a veterinarian out in Texas, and in a pinch sterilized it and used it as a scalpel to de-sex a male dog. If that doesn't bespeak of the quality of their product, I dunno what does.
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Redman0889 said:
hey man if your right, then COOL, because I'm worried mine was gonna break
cause I play with it so much and I'm kinda rough with it trying all sorts of crazy moves,
so I HOPE that your right. If not, oh well, it's a cheapy
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kool links wish we could have them in Oz 
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Random thread bump of the day courtesy of penn>gsp!
I just got a BM42. This thing is awesome. Knife porn if there ever was such a thing. I almost came when I opened the box, gazing at those gleaming titanium shafts. I've cut myself about 40 times this first week while attempting tricks way beyond my means. This one time I was trying a Y2K rollover (spin the knife around the thumb vertically) and I dropped it over my bed and it richocheted and stabbed me in the leg about a 1/4 each deep. Blood spurted all over the sheets. It was pretty hilarious. Anyway, this knife rocks!! Buy it!!
I just got a BM42. This thing is awesome. Knife porn if there ever was such a thing. I almost came when I opened the box, gazing at those gleaming titanium shafts. I've cut myself about 40 times this first week while attempting tricks way beyond my means. This one time I was trying a Y2K rollover (spin the knife around the thumb vertically) and I dropped it over my bed and it richocheted and stabbed me in the leg about a 1/4 each deep. Blood spurted all over the sheets. It was pretty hilarious. Anyway, this knife rocks!! Buy it!!
