Bull**** decisions: Has a champ ever handed over the belt?

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In the wake of the Machida/Shogun decision a lot of fans are claiming that Machida should have handed over the belt to Shogun. In the long, storied history of boxing has there ever been a case where after being given a gift decision the champ handed over the belt?

The closest thing that I can think of is the draw between Tommy Hearns and SRL where Sugar after admitted that the fight was a robbery and that Hearns should have won. Tommy Hearns once gave his belt to James Schulers family after James died in a motorbike accident. There was no robbery though as Hearns took out James in one round; its still a heart warming gesture though. Handing over the belt after the challenger was robbed is possibly the greatest show of sportsmanship that I can imagine, I would love to believe that someone has done it already.
 
Humans are selfish
so most likely it will never
happen

and if someone did do it(god bless them)
Im not sure if the Boxing Organization would
allow it
 
It would be a nice gesture, but what would the organisation say about it? Well I guess if the champ thinks he's lost, we'll make the challenger the new champ despite what the judges decided.

Closest thing I can think of is when Stevie Johnston was given the decision in the rematch with Castillo. Then the judges realised they fucked up the scoring and it was declared a draw. So Johnston personally took the belt and handed it back. Castillo only found out what had happened when Stevie turned up at his dressing room to hand the belt back.
 
Then WBC SMW champ Richie Woodhall admitted he lost to Glenn Catley. He obviously couldn't hand over the belt but he stated he didn't deserve the majority decision that was given to him.

"I was terrible....Glenn deserved it, I didn't. He was better than me on the night. My jab was miles away, and it was an awful performance."
 
I figured the organization would have something to say about it. I can see Dana cumming violently if one of his fighters did that. He would be an instant fan favourite and it would hype a rematch beautifully, regardless if his opponent is made the official champion or not.
 
When a fighter who clearly lost but gets the decision says ‘It was a close fight’ or ‘It could have gone either way’, it’s as good as him admitting ‘I got my ass handed to me’.

Not many fighters are going to do it, even less in MMA. In fact the only one I can ever recall is Randy Couture in his first fight with Rizzo.
 
Not a champ, but i remember Rampage trying to give his pride trophy to Ninja
 
A lot of boxers have been robbed and seen other boxers getting robbed.

They probably just figure they'll take the win however cheap because this time they didn't come out on the $#!tty side of the robbery.

Maybe they figure it'll all even out in the end.


Fighters are opportunistic too, and will take advantage, attack weakness, take as much leeway as they're given.

Champions particularly have a supreme sense of confidence...and arrogance.
Some legitimately believe they really won a fight when the consensus amongst thousands if not millions of fight-fans is that they lost.

Big George Foreman certainly wasn't going to make a gesture to hand over the Heavyweight Title belt to Axel Schulz.

No, they're gonna wipe the sweat off their brow, say, "Woo, that was a close one!", and take that title out to go party !
The good times will continue to roll, because they all know they'll lose that title and the prestige and the perks soon enough.

They're gonna get while the gettin's good, God bless 'em.

.
 
I think Morales gave the WBO belt back to Barrera after the first fight
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bradlee180 said:
A lot of boxers have been robbed and seen other boxers getting robbed.

They probably just figure they'll take the win however cheap because this time they didn't come out on the $#!tty side of the robbery.

Maybe they figure it'll all even out in the end.


Fighters are opportunistic too, and will take advantage, attack weakness, take as much leeway as they're given.

Champions particularly have a supreme sense of confidence...and arrogance.
Some legitimately believe they really won a fight when the consensus amongst thousands if not millions of fight-fans is that they lost.

Big George Foreman certainly wasn't going to make a gesture to hand over the Heavyweight Title belt to Axel Schulz.

No, they're gonna wipe the sweat off their brow, say, "Woo, that was a close one!", and take that title out to go party !
The good times will continue to roll, because they all know they'll lose that title and the prestige and the perks soon enough.

They're gonna get while the gettin's good, God bless 'em.

.
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Oh man I remember watching that fight live. Schulz wasn't really anybody of note and hadn't beaten anyone but I was cheering for him by the end of that fight. Total shit decision.
 
i remember the foreman vs. shulz fight.

lots of jabs by foreman, landing, with lots of flurries and wild punches from schulz which IMO did not land.

not a great fight but i dont disagree with the outcome.
 
Chrisdude said:
I dont think so but he did supposdley say that
Barrera won that fight I belive
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I don't think morales would ever say that. He threw something in his face when barrera walked up to him at the end of the fight.
 
I cant remember this fight, but the referee stepped in for a second and changed his mind, then came an illegal strike, but the dude faked the accidnt and got up like nothing happened after the DQ. Anybody remember what im talking about
 
Nobody knows what Im talking about?

The ref was Joe Cortez, and it was for a title, but I dont think the commision gave him a title for that fight. This fight completely slipped out of my mind.
 
bradlee180 said:
A lot of boxers have been robbed and seen other boxers getting robbed.

They probably just figure they'll take the win however cheap because this time they didn't come out on the $#!tty side of the robbery.

Maybe they figure it'll all even out in the end.


Fighters are opportunistic too, and will take advantage, attack weakness, take as much leeway as they're given.

Champions particularly have a supreme sense of confidence...and arrogance.
Some legitimately believe they really won a fight when the consensus amongst thousands if not millions of fight-fans is that they lost.

Big George Foreman certainly wasn't going to make a gesture to hand over the Heavyweight Title belt to Axel Schulz.

No, they're gonna wipe the sweat off their brow, say, "Woo, that was a close one!", and take that title out to go party !
The good times will continue to roll, because they all know they'll lose that title and the prestige and the perks soon enough.

They're gonna get while the gettin's good, God bless 'em.

.
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The Brad Guy is like the Socrates of the boxing forum he blesses us with his words of wisdom.
 
Steakeater said:
I cant remember this fight, but the referee stepped in for a second and changed his mind, then came an illegal strike, but the dude faked the accidnt and got up like nothing happened after the DQ. Anybody remember what im talking about
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Soto/Lorenzo.
 
MeBig said:
Oh man I remember watching that fight live. Schulz wasn't really anybody of note and hadn't beaten anyone but I was cheering for him by the end of that fight. Total shit decision.
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Agreed ^ then we find out later that Shulz's IBF ranking was paid for by Arum ($100,000). And then Kusher and Sauderland bribed the IBF $100,000 for a rematch,lol.

BOXING; Four Boxing Officials Are Charged With Bribery - The New York Times
BOXING; Another Promoter Says He Had to Bribe I.B.F. - The New York Times
 
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