bulked....but it's all fat? ***with diet***

[anti_clwntwn**]

just thought i'd mention that I'm trying to post here with "workout" related stuff, because bodybuilding.com is no fucking help at all!

anyhow I've been working out a while and I tried to get up to 200lbs this year, i failed. Last year i was 185 about (may) and by december i had reached 200, but my waist was huge and i was.....fat. So I cut down and i'm 191 right now and my waist is still 38in (used to be 40). So in the next month I will be cutting down to 185, same as last year. I made no progress. I should mention however that I did make progress in the strength department.

My question is, what is wrong when you bulk but all you put on is fat? not enough protein? i hope not cuz i get on average 300grms a day.

I should also mention that i'm 5'9 and have a "smallish" frame, my wrists are about 6 1/2 inches around.

 

[Ziltoid]

When you bulk, you will gain some fat but not all like you said. It all depends how well you are eating and how hard you are training. Post your diet. What are you eating and when are you eating it?

 

[anti_clwntwn**]

meal 1: 1 cup oatmeal
1 banana
150 grams cottage cheese
3 whole eggs

meal 2: tuna
handful of almonds
banana

meal3: weight watchers wrap
3 slices turkey
1 slice cheese
handful of almonds

meal4: (pre workout)
2 scoops optimum whey (the best)
1 scoop carb supplement

meal 5: (post wrkout)
2 scoops whey
1 scoop carb
2 tblspn natural peanut butter

meal 6: 1 chicken breast
1 cup sweet potato

meal 7: 1 litre of 2% milk.

 

[Fozzy1]

what a icky diet 0.o;

~Foz

 

[Rowan11088]

That's a fair amount of food for someone your size, depending on how hard you're training. You could consider adding in cardio in the mornings, and then the amount of food would be just about right. If you don't want to do that, definitely cut out the carb supplements and the peanut butter, and just eat a banana or some kind of fruit with your protein shake PWO. I also wouldn't drink such a large amount of milk before bed, that's a tactic used more by extreme hard-gainers, which you are not if you get fat easily.

 

[anti_clwntwn**]

That's a fair amount of food for someone your size, depending on how hard you're training. You could consider adding in cardio in the mornings, and then the amount of food would be just about right. If you don't want to do that, definitely cut out the carb supplements and the peanut butter, and just eat a banana or some kind of fruit with your protein shake PWO. I also wouldn't drink such a large amount of milk before bed, that's a tactic used more by extreme hard-gainers, which you are not if you get fat easily.

thanks, I also suspect the milk may be part it. I started drinking that much because i used to take 2 scoops whey with a bit of milk b4 bed, but it was too expensive. I also cycle everywhere on a fixed gear (no breaks, hard-ass gear) but honestly, nothing is better than running imo.

 

[anti_clwntwn**]

what a icky diet 0.o;

~Foz

foz in the house eh?

 

[Ziltoid]

Where are the veggies bro? I only see sweet potatoes at dinner time. You should go read the 7 habits from john Berardi if you havent already.

 

[bubbleboyjones]

My question is, what is wrong when you bulk but all you put on is fat? not enough protein? i hope not cuz i get on average 300grms a day.

lol...man you're eating too much food. How much do you work out? No fresh vegetables...you're taking carbs supplements? :icon_neut

Also 38" waist and you're 5'9" with a small frame? Are those strength gains really worth having a stomach like that? Im just saying I think you need to set your priorities straight when putting a program together...unless you're shooting to become a power lifter or something.

 

[anti_clwntwn**]

Where are the veggies bro? I only see sweet potatoes at dinner time. You should go read the 7 habits from john Berardi if you havent already.

shit i didn't put them in cuz they account for like no cals, i usually have 2-3 carrots or celery with my tuna meal and my wrap meal. There is also lettuce in my wrap.

 

[anti_clwntwn**]

lol...man you're eating too much food. How much do you work out? No fresh vegetables...you're taking carbs supplements? :icon_neut

Also 38" waist and you're 5'9" with a small frame? Are those strength gains really worth having a stomach like that? Im just saying I think you need to set your priorities straight when putting a program together...unless you're shooting to become a power lifter or something.

that meal plan is 3800-4000 calories, which is what you need to support a 200lbs frame, working out 4-5 days a week. And my waist in not HUGE or anything, i just that by the time i go to bed, I can't see my abs. A year or two ago I went buck with the core training, that's when i lost my 31 in waist, but my back stopped hurting when I did squats.

 

[oyaji poi]

shit i didn't put them in cuz they account for like no cals, i usually have 2-3 carrots or celery with my tuna meal and my wrap meal. There is also lettuce in my wrap.

AHAHAHAHAHAHhhahaaaa....ha...:icon_neut


Less supplements, more real food. Balance your diet out with green leafy veggies and protein. And post your workout in the S&P to make sure you're on the right track.

 

[bubbleboyjones]

that meal plan is 3800-4000 calories, which is what you need to support a 200lbs frame, working out 4-5 days a week. And my waist in not HUGE or anything, i just that by the time i go to bed, I can't see my abs. A year or two ago I went buck with the core training, that's when i lost my 31 in waist, but my back stopped hurting when I did squats.

Whats your workout schedule? cardio? how many hours you logging in?
Whats you're bf%?


Also don't get stuck on some chart you found dictating you what you're calorie needs are supposed to be.... listen to your body. You just said you bulked but its all fat. If you're putting fat on then then your body doesn't agree with the articles you read.

 

[anti_clwntwn**]

AHAHAHAHAHAHhhahaaaa....ha...:icon_neut


Less supplements, more real food. Balance your diet out with green leafy veggies and protein. And post your workout in the S&P to make sure you're on the right track.

so you're saying.......more vegetables. Sometimes tone doesn't translate well on the internet.

 

[anti_clwntwn**]

Whats your workout schedule? cardio? how many hours you logging in?
Whats you're bf%?


Also don't get stuck on some chart you found dictating you what you're calorie needs are supposed to be.... listen to your body. You just said you bulked but its all fat. If you're putting fat on then then your body doesn't agree with the articles you read.

4-5 days a week lifting. Cardio is from cycling to and from gym and to work (1/2 hour- 45min per day)
bf fat is about 17-20% I think.

 

[Rowan11088]

In case you didn't get the message yet, celery and carrots barely count as vegetables...especially the celery, it's just water and some fiber. Spinach, broccoli, brussell sprouts, cauliflower, peas, green beans...these are your friends. Calories that come from veggies are almost free, so consider adding a lot of them to your diet.

And 4000 calories a day is too much for someone of your size, doing really not that much exercise.

 

[anti_clwntwn**]

In case you didn't get the message yet, celery and carrots barely count as vegetables...especially the celery, it's just water and some fiber. Spinach, broccoli, brussell sprouts, cauliflower, peas, green beans...these are your friends. Calories that come from veggies are almost free, so consider adding a lot of them to your diet.

And 4000 calories a day is too much for someone of your size, doing really not that much exercise.

much clearer, thanks. I didn't know celery was that crappy....

 

[bubbleboyjones]

4-5 days a week lifting. Cardio is from cycling to and from gym and to work (1/2 hour- 45min per day)
bf fat is about 17-20% I think.

Well then I think its pretty simple, too many calories/food. You have to workout a lot more than that to support that many calories at you're size. An MMA fighter could get away with that many calories at 5'9" but they are putting in 25-30 hours a week in the gym...you're getting about 9 max I would say.

Also Rowan was correct on the vegetable comment.

 

[anti_clwntwn**]

alright well some of the posts were smarmy but the same thread got 2 replies on bb.com....so thanks. How would you guys alter the diet to I'm putting on "good" weight, not just fat. I'd like to cut from a solid 200lb.

 

[dolowhite]

In case you didn't get the message yet, celery and carrots barely count as vegetables...especially the celery, it's just water and some fiber. Spinach, broccoli, brussell sprouts, cauliflower, peas, green beans...these are your friends. Calories that come from veggies are almost free, so consider adding a lot of them to your diet.


I figure that eating them raw is the best. but if I was to cook them should
I just steam them. I mean, I would like a little flavor every now and then but I also do not want to ruin the nutriants found in my veggies.