Building Strength/Maintaining Speed

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  1. Wand.Silva666

    Wand.Silva666 Yellow Belt

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    Hey, im a 17 year old wrestler and i wrestle in the 95kg weight class.I am currently 87 kg, as was the case when i wrestled in the provincial championships this year. I am faster than most of my opponents but obviously with a 8-10 kg weight difference between some of my opponents and me, they can be MUCH stronger. I would really appreciate any tips on gaining strength/size. thanks
     
  2. takeahnase

    takeahnase watching the swarm

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    Check out the FAQ at the top of the page and then maybe come back with specific questions.
     
  3. you get strength if you train for strength.

    you can also cultivate speed if you train for speed.


    basically, pick a legit strength program from the FAQ and once you iron out the form of each lift, move the bar quickly (under control).

    if you can move a heavy weight quickly, you are working strength and speed.
     
  4. BayAreaGuy

    BayAreaGuy Good Day

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    Bruce Lee lifted weights for mass/strength and his speed is legendary.


    He said as long as you combine lifting with speed work (on seperate days) and stretching, you won't have any problems.


    Another thing he did with weight lifting is he kept the same weight and amount of reps in his workout, but timed it so he could do it faster incresaing his speed.
     
  5. Porch_Rabbit

    Porch_Rabbit Blue Belt

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    Olympic lifting is always good for explosion and athleticism along with strength. Just focus on speed during all your lifts. Make sure all your lifting movements are quick.
     
  6. guynamedtroy

    guynamedtroy Banned Banned

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  7. Mark Limbaga

    Mark Limbaga Amateur Fighter

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    read the FAQ
     
  8. hunto

    hunto Brown Belt

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    Bruce Lee worship club includes a healthy dose of denial.

    :rolleyes:

    OP, read the FAQ, good programs in there for increasing Strength and Power.




    {[really, if you're going to answer questions, don't refer to Bruce Lee in here. He just doesn't carry the same mystique in here like in the Hvywts.]}
     
  9. the_harbinger

    the_harbinger Orange Belt

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  10. Bullitt68

    Bullitt68 Senior Moderator Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Well, to be specific, he lifted for function. When he originally began incorporating serious weight-lifting into his training, he put on 35 pounds of muscle (that's right: at one point, Bruce Lee was 165 pounds and was buff) and it slowed him down considerably, prompting him to switch up his style of training in order for it to compliment his martial arts training as opposed to simply training for size/strength.

    His routine was a solid routine, though. The power lifters of today may look at it and scoff, but for a martial artist, especially in the 1960s/1970s, it was pretty revolutionary for him to be training the way he did.

    Cleans 2X8
    Squats 2X12
    Pullovers 2X8
    Bench 2X6
    GM's 2X8
    Curls 2X8

    He also did an insane amount of grip training and paid lots of attention to building his ligaments and tendons as opposed to just getting as big as he possibly could.

    Why at the very mention of Bruce Lee's name do you feel the need to lash out like this?
     
  11. hunto

    hunto Brown Belt

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    Because he walked around mostly at 145 or so. He's hardly an example of Strength and Power. Because people revere him unnecessarily. BL worship is unreal in the other parts of Sherdog; his shit doesn't float in here.
     
  12. Bullitt68

    Bullitt68 Senior Moderator Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Seeing how Bruce Lee was an early supporter of weight training for martial artists, I'd say he is a great example of strength and power.

    There may be some people who think the man was a super hero, but there's no need to insult everyone who has respect for one of the most influential men in martial arts history.
     
  13. hunto

    hunto Brown Belt

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    He was a joke. Now go defend BL in the Heavyweights, where you post most of the time.
     
  14. JinKazama

    JinKazama Red Belt

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    as long as u lift the heavy weights quickly, youll be aigh

    but yea, read the stickies/faq
     
  15. Bullitt68

    Bullitt68 Senior Moderator Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Blind hate is no better than blind love.

    It's unfortunate you have so little respect for Bruce Lee, but I'm certainly not going to sit here and try changing your mind.
     
  16. hunto

    hunto Brown Belt

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    If all you're going to do is worship Bruce Lee, go back to Heavyweights and lord it over the white belts in there.

    Go on now, GIT!!
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  17. omgitsrick

    omgitsrick Green Belt

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    Personally I don't think Bruce Lee is a symbol of "strength and power" but he DID help popularize weightlifting and martial arts, so he deserves some credit for that.
     
  18. RedNeckJiuJitsu

    RedNeckJiuJitsu Black Belt

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    Hunto, not everyone who respects Lee for what he was (no more, no less) is blindly worshippin' him thinkin' he could beat Fedor. Was his trainin' great by today's standards? No. Was it a step in the right direction compared to martial artists of his day who never cross-trained and never touched weights? Most heartily, yes. Was his liftin' good? No, but that's not what bayareaguy was sayin'.

    So get the hell off your high horse and quit tryin' to read superhuman subtext into any mention of Bruce Lee's name.


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    ^^^ Hunto's Horse ^^^
     
  19. hunto

    hunto Brown Belt

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    Another BL worshipper huh?

    Does BL stand for anything to do with Strength and Power, today, right now, at all?? NO.

    A step in the right direction is Clevio Massimo, or Louis Cyr.


    Nice try though.
    3/10.
     
  20. hunto

    hunto Brown Belt

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    That goes fer you too John Lambert.
     

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