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Brown v Lytle - D'Arce Choke

Discussion in 'Grappling Technique' started by kaptr1d, Jul 4, 2010.

  1. kaptr1d Orange Belt

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    So I was out at a bar watching the fights with a bunch of less then casual fight fans... I saw Brown sink in the darce/brabo and announced the end of the fight.

    It looked to me like Brown had perfect positioning... the choke was deep and he moved to the right position to finish with it.

    Did anyone notice anything in particular that he did wrong? I use the darce all the time and its a great go-to move for me so I was kind of surprised that he wasn't able to finish... what could he have done different to get the tap or put Lytle to sleep?
     
  2. dr.feelgood Green Belt

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    Brown didn't have full control over Lytle's trapped arm. It wasn't across his neck which gave him enough space to survive.
     
  3. Vailor White Belt

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    he should of walked his hips into lytle more
     
  4. Cash Bill 52 Brown Belt

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    Brown needed to walk a "Lytle" more towards his opponent. Lytle was able to create a little space. He said it was tight. I'm sure it was.

    btw...I would have tapped...
     
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    maybe his arms were fatiguing and just held it to show dominance to the judges, the world may never know
     
  6. Drew Foster Silver Belt

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    Who knows? I thought it was over with. It did look like Lytle's arm wasn't across his neck and he had it tucked down by his side. I think that may have saved him. It looked like Brown tried to gator roll it back to top side control near the end, but just didn't have enough energy.
     
  7. Mikey Triangles Bending Joints the Wrong Way Since 1985

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    Lytle was creating space, and Brown didn't exhaust his options to finish. If he brought his elbows together, then clocked in until Lytle collapsed, then stepped over for a kind of pseudo-mount he would have definitely finished the match. Instead Brown just stayed on his side squeezing and looking for a better angle. For a few seconds there I thought it was over also, but when the camera switched angles for a second you could see enough space to fly a plane through in certain spots.

    Basically what it (and the fight) came down to was that Lytle is a way better submission artist than Brown.
     
  8. BatBoyJG Brown Belt

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    I like finishing it more by sitting the opposite way, from what Brown did. It allows you to wrap up a guard, (usually one leg over the back and one knee across the belly) and I feel there's less of a chance for them to get out. That being said Lytle is a beast, he definitely had to go to a real happy place to survive.
     
  9. Calebz Orange Belt

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    I could be wrong cause I was totally drunk at the time, but I'm fairly sure that Brown didn't have it all the way across his neck, I specifically remember a camera angle switch that showed it from the front and Lytle had his chin tucked and was creating space.
     
  10. kaptr1d Orange Belt

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    I just rewatched the fight and I think you summed it up perfectly right there.
     
  11. Drew Foster Silver Belt

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    Basically that! Can't believe Lytle hit that sub AGAIN!
     

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