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International British Special Forces Alleged to Regularly Execute Civilians in Afghanistan

Discussion in 'The War Room' started by Orgasmo, Aug 1, 2020 at 4:21 PM.

  1. lifelessheap Gold Belt

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    So wars involve killing?
     
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  2. Confucamus Last of the V8s Platinum Member

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    Trying to root out the Bacha Bazi sickos?
     
  3. AgonyandIrony Gold Belt

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    Source?
     
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  4. Yehudim Orange Belt

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    It’s tragic but the main problem I see is how long it took to bring this to light.

    Things are working accordingly if they’re rooting out their own and didn’t just have this come to light because the BBC found some secret documents or something.

    Hopefully they find out the people responsible for this and other killings and put them in prison forever.
     
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  5. Confucamus Last of the V8s Platinum Member

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    You need a source for a question?
     
  6. San Marino Green Belt Platinum Member

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    How did they know the civilians were unarmed? Did they have a knife? Could they have been informants? Could they be holding the trigger to an IED? Maybe the men left their AK-47 at home. Does a 'bad' guy need to be armed to be killed? I don't believe either Osama bin Laden or Qasem Soleimani were armed when the U.S. military killed them.
     
  7. avenue94 Blue Belt

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    Did you read the article (suspiciously cookie cutter "reports" of what happened during operations, etc.) And are you implying being an informant would be grounds for summary killing? Because that would be hilariously out of line with any legal norms. And based on reports, bin Laden was armed when killed (not that it would have made a difference tbh)
     
  8. San Marino Green Belt Platinum Member

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    ...like someone knowing about how 9/11 was going to happen and not holding them accountable for the death of 3,000 Americans? Completely in-line with legal norms. Weren't spies killed by both sides during the "50s, "60s, and "70s?
     
  9. aunshi189 Brown Belt Platinum Member

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    A lot of over simplification in this thread. Churchill asked for help from US ships to transport grain from Australia to India and Roosevelt said no.
    Churchill was no doubt a racist and had some major fuck ups in his time, but people seem incapable of finding a middle ground between hailing him as some godlike hero or decrying him as an evil genocidal tyrant.
     
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  10. Goonerview Gold Belt

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    Doesn’t Afghanistan have a pandemic of child brides and raping young boys?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi

    Some parts of Afghanistan have a really shit culture of abusing children. Not to mention growing heroin and other harmful drugs.

    I don’t condone harming innocent people, but if I were there and I walked in on some child abuse, MFers are getting the bullet.

    Regardless, the British should never have gone to Afghanistan in the first place. Absolute mess of a situation!
     
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  11. JDragon I like posters who don't get reported.

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    There is an article from the early 2000s that details how British and US special forces apparently differed from KSK in that they allegedly didn't care about collateral damage and therefore also took out civilians to be quicker (and found the "German approach" super complicated) . I can look it up if someone is interested.
     
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  13. Raffen Yellow Belt

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    Disgusting terrorist scum tbh
     
  14. aries Silver Belt

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    The Australian Special Forces were doing the exact same thing. I bet all Special Forces were at it.

     
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  15. Kafir-kun Fear is Freedom, Subjugation is Liberation Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    No those guys have power and influence so they get granted cushy state jobs by the coalition who cover up their crimes. Only poor and hapless civilians can be executed with impunity. Isn't "freedom" amazing?
    Weird that you two brought this up when it has nothing to do with the story and wasn't mentioned once. Its almost like you're grasping for reasons to justify the massacre of civilians.

    If you actually read the article, which I doubt you did, you'd see that the SF justify it by saying they were reaching for a weapon...after being detained. And they have tried this bullshit cover story multiple times. Like eight different detainees "reached for a grenade" that happened to be a dud. How convenient that grenades fail in Afghanistan when you most need them to. They even mention the curtain as the one places the guys always seem to stash their weapon. You'd think after the first half dozen guys hid rifles and grenades behind curtains they might check there after detaining the family. The article also points out that in more than one occasion there were more bodies than weapons, meaning the story that all these guys were armed and threatening the SF is most likely bullshit and they just killed them after detaining them. Like even the people who ran from the house into the night apparently turned around after finding a rifle or yet another dud grenade and attacked the SF. These fucking guys really think that if you just write "g-grenade!" in the report that makes the kill kosher.

    SAS: "See kids, leftists have passed a bunch of laws to stop us from killing civilians on a whim. They say we can only kill them if they pose an immediate threat so before you execute them you have to yell 'grenade!'"
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    He's "just asking questions" bro. You should know the playbook by now.
    Sure.
     
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    They were living on an island. Learn to fish, dumbasses:)
     
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  17. JDragon I like posters who don't get reported.

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    @Kafir-kun can you post the translation when you read it?
     
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  20. Kafir-kun Fear is Freedom, Subjugation is Liberation Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    This is only the part JDragon referred to, there's a lot more to the article if you want to read the rest but we're not supposed to post entire articles and most is not relevant to his point anyway.
    Maybe he can take a look and tell us what, if anything, is lost in translation.
     

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