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International Brexit Discussion v9: The Last Extension

Discussion in 'The War Room' started by Arkain2K, Jul 23, 2019.

  1. curryjunkie

    curryjunkie mixed marital arts...

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    ok then , same sex marraige is now legal in the north...happy mr shannon?
     
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  2. JDragon

    JDragon DOX News Anchor Platinum Member

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    Boris Johnson appears to be on the brink of reaching a Brexit deal after making major concessions to EU demands over the Irish border.

    A draft text of the agreement could now be published on Wednesday if Downing Street gives the final green light, according to senior EU and British sources.

    It is understood that the negotiating teams have agreed in principle that there will be a customs border down the Irish Sea. A similar arrangement was rejected by Theresa May as a deal that no British prime minister could accept.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politic...close-to-brexit-deal-after-border-concessions

    <Fedor23><WellThere>
     
  3. Armbars

    Armbars Oops!

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    Sounds unlikely to me, DUP left and said "theres too many gaps"

    Which means May's new EU treaty is pretty much back on the table, which was already rejected by the house 3 times, and was a pointless rework of the current relationship we already have.

    Sounds to me like BJ will need to ask for an extension on the 19th lol.
     
  4. JDragon

    JDragon DOX News Anchor Platinum Member

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    Well Rees-Mogg says "the votes are now there", fwiw

    ...though given this, I wonder why they even negotiate:


    To win a vote, the prime minister would need the support of almost all Eurosceptics in the Conservative party, as well as most of the former Tories from whom he withdrew the whip and either the Democratic Unionist party (DUP) or a bloc of Labour MPs.
     
  5. Armbars

    Armbars Oops!

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    That little posh religious nut aint got a clue.

    DUP = no
    SNP = no
    Lib Dems = no
    lets say 10% of the tories = no
    Labour 95% = no

    No deal a torie Government gets through the house.

    Its Cancel Brexit time!
     
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    JDragon DOX News Anchor Platinum Member

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    Yeah, I also edited my post to reflect that situation.
     
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  7. Armbars

    Armbars Oops!

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    Brexit is getting closer to being cancelled
     
  8. KeepItRealist

    KeepItRealist Silver Belt

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    Democracy is already cancelled in the UK

    It's as much a myth as an independent judiciary.
     
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  9. Armbars

    Armbars Oops!

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    LMAO, ERG saying its a joke of a deal. Which means it's May's EU treaty with slight changes. Boris wasn't able to do anything. The deal will be worse than what we have now, its a waste of time.

    Cancel it!
     
  10. 7437

    7437 Gold Belt

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    Probably should have voted for pro hard Brexit parliment of that's what they wanted.
     
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  11. Arkain2K

    Arkain2K Si vis pacem, para bellum

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    We all know that there isn't any kind of deal that would pass this warzone of a parliament, no matter if it's brought home by Theresa May, Boris Johnson, or even dear leader Jeremy Corbyn himself.

    I guess the next squabble for v10 will be whether Brexit with no deal means No Deal Brexit, or No Brexit.
     
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  12. KeepItRealist

    KeepItRealist Silver Belt

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    Yeah. Both Labour and Conservatives running on a Brexit manifesto wasn't enough. They need to win another 5 elections.
     
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    7437 Gold Belt

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    I dobt recall either of them running on no deal Brexit.
     
  14. KeepItRealist

    KeepItRealist Silver Belt

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    Leaving the customs union and single market. You know, what David Cameron told everyone Brexit meant. EU won't accept it, no deal is the only choice.
     
  15. Armbars

    Armbars Oops!

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    Explain how a no-deal Brexit is legally plausible in Ireland? the only way I see it possible is a hard border. Do you understand what issues that will cause?
     
  16. KeepItRealist

    KeepItRealist Silver Belt

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    Yeah. And I'm tired of discussing the poison pill for the tenth time in this thread.

    It's Project Fear bullshit again.
     
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    7437 Gold Belt

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    Oh, so it was vague and moronic. And no deal was not what they voted on.
     
  18. Armbars

    Armbars Oops!

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    Project fear lmao?

    I was a hard brexiteer. But in reality the Irish issue was never ever thought about, and its become apparent there's nothing that can be done to address it other than a hard border. Which id personally be for, but anyone Irish I speak to thinks its a terrible idea and will cause all sorts of trouble.
     
  19. KeepItRealist

    KeepItRealist Silver Belt

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    They voted to leave the customs union and the single market. Again, this was repeated over and over again by Remainer David Cameron.

    The EU won't accept a deal that allows Britain to do that, ergo No Deal is the only way for Brexit to happen.
     
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    JDragon DOX News Anchor Platinum Member

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    But this is not true. This is exactly what is on the table. UK would leave both.
     

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