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International Brexit Discussion v9: The Last Extension

Discussion in 'The War Room' started by Arkain2K, Jul 23, 2019.

  1. curryjunkie

    curryjunkie mixed marital arts...

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    "Who knew sorting out the troubles would be so hard?"........
     
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  2. Gl0kta

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    The EUs position has been clear from day 1. The current farce is purely for the domestic audience.
     
  3. curryjunkie

    curryjunkie mixed marital arts...

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  4. KeepItRealist

    KeepItRealist Silver Belt

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    Not true? Giving in to Germany demand's has never gone well for the UK.
     
  5. curryjunkie

    curryjunkie mixed marital arts...

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    Most morons invoke ww2..…you've gone back to the Vienna Congress.....I repeat...<{1-1}>...with added...<Kpop775><Kpop775><{1-17}>
     
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  6. KeepItRealist

    KeepItRealist Silver Belt

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    Exactly. To illustrate there is a very long history of terrible compromises with Germany in particular in the name of peace and stability in Europe. Britain did far more to defeat Napoleon than Prussia, but look who got what when it came time to divide things up. They didn't even fight to expand Hanover and reclaim rightful Guelph lands. And particularly apt since their allies for centuries and Royal Family's ancestral lands in Hanover were later annexed and Britain did nothing about it to not upset Prussia. History repeats itself. All they have been doing is empowering EU totalitarianism.

    As I said, is it not true?
     
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  7. Nameless King

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    EU dont want to be seen as the one slamming door into UK face.
     
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    They are in no danger of that. The reporting has consistently put all of the blame on the UK.

    Honestly, it doesn't seem entirely fair; Boris most recent offer seemed like a genuine attempt at compromise, but the EU isn't biting.
     
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  9. Billy no mates

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    I'd go back to Vortigern , he really started the rot......
     
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    What makes you think that? It was clearly designed to fail. If this was actually intended to be a serious offer, they must have been hiding under a rock for the past three years.
     
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    Remember when you forgot to write an essay and you had to invent some bullshit during the 15 minute bus ride to school? That's what his offer looked like.

    Anyway, it's the same old problem, there is no middle ground where the UK is completely out of the EU, the EU's common market is saved, the GFA are respected and Northern Ireland is treated exactly like the rest of the UK. The UK doesn't want a backstop, the EU wants to protect the common market, a no deal situation would tear down the GFA and the Tories don't have a majority without the DUP. It's a Gordian knot and nobody has the sword to cut it.
     
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    There already were two referendums held by both Irish and UK voters, forming a joint agreement by both Westminster and Dublin, and leading to a peaceful solution to the “Irish problem”. It’s the Good Friday Agreements. What you are calling for in this post already happened. It’s lead to unprecedented peace on the island. This problem is fixed and sorted. Disrupting that peace will be solely the fault of the party going back on their word.
     
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  13. KeepItRealist

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    Coup. Same as across the pond.

    How Bercow has remained Speaker is a glaring example of how dysfunctional Parliament is.
     
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    Has it ever been that bad? There are so much loopholes and recourses it's amazing that the British government and Parliament ever get shit done.
     
  15. KeepItRealist

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    Don't know, but the way Remain MPs have worked with the EU to undermine Parliament for three years puts to shame any of the most outrageous allegations against Trump and working with foreign powers. Real collusion over and over again.
     
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  16. Billy no mates

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    MP's are maintaining Parliamentary sovereignty , it is the Government which is trying to undermine Parliament .
     
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    Treasonist electorate voting in a minority government against the will of the people.
     
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    Edit. Can't be bothered discussing your nonsense.
     
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  19. ShadowRun

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    I see

     
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    I couldn't find anywhere what would actually happen if Johnson doesn't ask for an extension. There doesn't seem to be a mechanism to force him to do so or to punish him if he doesn't.

    So what? There will be a vote of no confidence and, if he wins it, Johnson will be free to ignore everything? If he loses, but Labour still refuses general elections, then what? This is a gigantic clusterfuck, how the fuck did that system survive for so long?
     

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