International Brexit Discussion v9: The Last Extension

[LangfordBarrow]

Depends on who you ask. According to Dominic Cummings, who ran the Leave Campaign and is one of Johnson's senior advisors, those who oppose Brexit have run out time to stop it. Cummings has said that if they pass a vote of No Confidence, all the government has to do is call a general election for after October 31st and a No Deal happens by default.

Sounds like it'll be up to parliament to stop it. Either way, considering all the bumbling, a new election can let the voters decide who they want leading the country.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

The thing is, I don't think Boris wants no deal Brexit. Heck, he probably doesn't even want Brexit (though not delivering would hurt him at some point). What he wants is power.

And ultimately, the EU also wants him to have a stable government in order to even be able end this ordeal with a deal (which might get cosmetic adjustments to save BJ's face).

Sorry bro but there's no saving BJ's face.

 

[curryjunkie]

I'm willing to bet that the U.S-U.K trade deal would not take anywhere near the 10 years projected by Obama, since he wanted the U.K back of the queue and Trump doesn't.

In fact, chances are we would have a U.S-U.K deal completed LONG before a U.S-E.U deal comes into fruition.

Elementary fact for the petty Remainers who are still out to sabotage their own country in a tantrum after not getting the referendum result they wanted: the U.S is the U.K's largest trade and investment partner. Get that deal in the bag in a timely manner rather than continue quarrelling among yourselves and you would eliminate a lot of economic uncertainties and doubts and prove that the U.K is indeed open for business.

President Trump: US and UK working on 'very substantial' trade deal
27 July 2019

What is a trade deal?


Why don't the US and UK already have a trade deal?


How long could a US-UK trade deal take to agree?


How much is US-UK trade worth at the moment?


What trade deals has the UK done so far?


https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-politics-49135045

look guys! i post lots of links! that makes me an expert on international trade!

 

[Teen Wolf]

look guys! i post lots of links! that makes me an expert on international trade!

Plus as if the US would give the UK a fair deal, they no leverage.

 

[Cirris]

Plus as if the US would give the UK a fair deal, they no leverage.

It benefits the US just as much to give UK a good fair deal out of the gate to entice other EU nations to follow suit and leave the Brussels Syndicate behind.

Other international nations like Brazil, Canada, Mexico, India, southeast Asia would also probably give out trade deals to the UK almost immediately.

 

[Teen Wolf]

It benefits the US just as much to give UK a good fair deal out of the gate to entice other EU nations to follow suit and leave the Brussels Syndicate behind.

Other international nations like Brazil, Canada, Mexico, India, southeast Asia would also probably give out trade deals to the UK almost immediately.

Yeah it’s that simple isn’t it, just like Liam Fox said it would be easy.

https://amp.theguardian.com/politic...trade-deal-after-brexit-easiest-human-history

US would fuck the UK over, why not? What can the UK offer the US?

 

[7437]

It benefits the US just as much to give UK a good fair deal out of the gate to entice other EU nations to follow suit and leave the Brussels Syndicate behind.

Other international nations like Brazil, Canada, Mexico, India, southeast Asia would also probably give out trade deals to the UK almost immediately.

What other country that might leave could possibly have as much to take as the UK?

 

[whougonnacall]

It benefits the US just as much to give UK a good fair deal out of the gate to entice other EU nations to follow suit and leave the Brussels Syndicate behind.

Other international nations like Brazil, Canada, Mexico, India, southeast Asia would also probably give out trade deals to the UK almost immediately.

Nope just because your neighbour is stupid enough to cut off his own dick it doesnt mean the whole neighbourhood will too

The uk will bow to its new wto masters and the u.s will be first to go to town at its expense

 

[Arkain2K]

I'm willing to bet that the U.S-U.K trade deal would not take anywhere near the 10 years projected by Obama, since he wanted the U.K back of the queue and Trump doesn't.

In fact, chances are we would have a U.S-U.K deal completed LONG before a U.S-E.U deal comes into fruition.

look guys! i post lots of links! that makes me an expert on international trade!

Expert? Nah. But I'm willing to walk the walk.

Wanna put your money where your mouth is? Say, a $100 bet?

We can have one of the Mods here be the escrow, if you have more than just flatulent at the mouth.

 

[Teen Wolf]

Can’t wait for the details on the US-UK trade agreement because I bet Boris would also approve this shit.

 

[JDragon]

I'm willing to bet that the U.S-U.K trade deal would not take anywhere near the 10 years projected by Obama, since he wanted the U.K back of the queue and Trump doesn't.

In fact, chances are we would have a U.S-U.K deal completed LONG before a U.S-E.U deal comes into fruition.

Elementary fact for the petty Remainers who are still out to sabotage their own country in a tantrum after not getting the referendum result they wanted: the U.S is the U.K's largest trade and investment partner. Get that deal in the bag in a timely manner rather than continue quarrelling among yourselves and you would eliminate a lot of economic uncertainties and doubts and prove that the U.K is indeed open for business.

President Trump: US and UK working on 'very substantial' trade deal
27 July 2019

What is a trade deal?


Why don't the US and UK already have a trade deal?


How long could a US-UK trade deal take to agree?


How much is US-UK trade worth at the moment?


What trade deals has the UK done so far?


https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-politics-49135045

It is obvious that

a) yes, this deal could get done quickly
b) because the U.S. needs to export its products, some of which are not competitive enough
c) the U.K. is in a horrible position to negotiate and would get raped by a smiling Trump
d) such a deal would benefit the U.S. massively and haunt the U.K. for many years, but ultimately would have to happen given how both the U.S. (TPP) and the U.K. (EU) are running away from lucrative free trade zones in favor of populist nonsense.

 

[My2Cents]

It is obvious that

a) yes, this deal could get done quickly
b) because the U.S. needs to export its products, some of which are not competitive enough
c) the U.K. is in a horrible position to negotiate and would get raped by a smiling Trump
d) such a deal would benefit the U.S. massively and haunt the U.K. for many years, but ultimately would have to happen given how both the U.S. (TPP) and the U.K. (EU) are running away from lucrative free trade zones in favor of populist nonsense.

This sums it up pretty well I guess

 

[whougonnacall]

It is obvious that

a) yes, this deal could get done quickly
b) because the U.S. needs to export its products, some of which are not competitive enough
c) the U.K. is in a horrible position to negotiate and would get raped by a smiling Trump
d) such a deal would benefit the U.S. massively and haunt the U.K. for many years, but ultimately would have to happen given how both the U.S. (TPP) and the U.K. (EU) are running away from lucrative free trade zones in favor of populist nonsense.

Yep

 

[Arkain2K]

It is obvious that

a) yes, this deal could get done quickly
b) because the U.S. needs to export its products, some of which are not competitive enough
c) the U.K. is in a horrible position to negotiate and would get raped by a smiling Trump
d) such a deal would benefit the U.S. massively and haunt the U.K. for many years, but ultimately would have to happen given how both the U.S. (TPP) and the U.K. (EU) are running away from lucrative free trade zones in favor of populist nonsense.

Bruder, you just costed me $100.

On other news, Bolton basically says fuck WTO rules with this sector-by-sector trade proposal.

U.S. Offers U.K. Quick Sector-by-Sector Post-Brexit Trade Deals
By Robert Hutton | August 12, 2019



National Security Advisor John Bolton said the U.S. was ready to offer Britain sector-by-sector trade deals to help the country after a no-deal departure from the European Union.

On a visit to London Monday, Bolton met the U.K.’s new prime minister, Boris Johnson, with a message of support from President Donald Trump.

“The main purpose of this visit, really, is to convey President Trump’s desire to see a successful exit from the EU for the U.K. on Oct. 31,” Bolton told reporters afterward. “To offer to be involved in any way that we can and to express his hope that we can have a fully comprehensive bilateral trade agreement with the U.K. as soon as possible.”

Bolton said such a deal could be done “in a lot of different ways.” He said that to speed negotiations up, the two countries could agree to “bits and pieces at first,” with a “comprehensive agreement to follow.” His message, he said, was “We’re with you.”

In other comments, Bolton said:

• Any U.S.-U.K. trade deal would receive “overwhelming bipartisan support” in both houses of Congress
• The U.S. doesn’t want to put the U.K. “under pressure” on whether to allow Huawei Technologies Co. to play a role in 5G networks
• The British government is looking at the Huawei question “from square one”
• The U.S. welcomes the U.K.’s involvement in its mission to protect shipping in the Persian Gulf

Brexit talks are currently at an impasse. Johnson has rejected the Withdrawal Agreement that his predecessor, Theresa May, negotiated, and the EU has said that it won’t reopen it. If nothing changes, Britain will leave the EU without a deal Oct. 31, something that economists and government officials warn could causes severe economic damage.

Bolton’s offer to “carve out” areas where Britain and America could negotiate trade deals “very quickly” is designed to boost Johnson’s argument that Britain could see benefits from a no-deal Brexit. Bolton rejected the idea that trade talks would take years.

In a direct rebuke to former President Barack Obama, who in 2016 warned that Britain outside the EU would find itself at the “back of the queue” for a U.S. trade deal, Bolton said: “To be clear, in the Trump administration, Britain is at the front of the trade queue -- or ‘line,’ as we say.”

Asked which sectors he had in mind for fast deals, Bolton cited manufacturing, including car-makers. He said there was a potential “enormous benefit” from a financial services deal, but that this was “complex,” and so might not be the first on the list.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...uick-sector-by-sector-post-brexit-trade-deals

 

[JDragon]

Bruder, you just costed me $100.

 

[Hard To Tell]

Average salary in construction soars to £46,000 as UK loses EU workers

Average wages in the construction industry have soared as the UK loses EU workers because of Brexit, according to a recruitment firm.

Recruiters Randstrad said average pay in a sector survey had increased to £45,900 a year in 2018, a £3,600 rise in just 12 months.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/aver...KnmfiaJxLmzwF_Of&_guc_consent_skip=1565718434

Oh the humanity. The people who do these kinds of jobs grew up on council estates and didn't even go to university. This is totally unacceptable and why we absolutely must continue to have mass scale immigration. Otherwise these peasants will have increased bargaining power in the jobs market allowing them to demand higher wages and better working condititions.

 

[Gl0kta]

Average salary in construction soars to £46,000 as UK loses EU workers

Average wages in the construction industry have soared as the UK loses EU workers because of Brexit, according to a recruitment firm.

Recruiters Randstrad said average pay in a sector survey had increased to £45,900 a year in 2018, a £3,600 rise in just 12 months.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/aver...KnmfiaJxLmzwF_Of&_guc_consent_skip=1565718434

Oh the humanity. The people who do these kinds of jobs grew up on council estates and didn't even go to university. This is totally unacceptable and why we absolutely must continue to have mass scale immigration. Otherwise these peasants will have increased bargaining power in the jobs market allowing them to demand higher wages and better working condititions.

Don't worry Brexit hasn't reduced immigration their just not coming from the EU.

 

[Arkain2K]

 

[Teen Wolf]

Average salary in construction soars to £46,000 as UK loses EU workers

Average wages in the construction industry have soared as the UK loses EU workers because of Brexit, according to a recruitment firm.

Recruiters Randstrad said average pay in a sector survey had increased to £45,900 a year in 2018, a £3,600 rise in just 12 months.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/aver...KnmfiaJxLmzwF_Of&_guc_consent_skip=1565718434

Oh the humanity. The people who do these kinds of jobs grew up on council estates and didn't even go to university. This is totally unacceptable and why we absolutely must continue to have mass scale immigration. Otherwise these peasants will have increased bargaining power in the jobs market allowing them to demand higher wages and better working condititions.

So one recruitment firm is all you need and Brexit is a success before it’s even happened?

Also means the job/building price increases so if no other wages are increasing then who’s going to spend the cash?

Questions for you and any leave voter, this isn’t a troll job I’m actually interested.

1. What problems in your life will be solved by leaving the EU?

2. How will leaving the EU improve your life?

 

[curryjunkie]

Expert? Nah. But I'm willing to walk the walk.

Wanna put your money where your mouth is? Say, a $100 bet?

We can have one of the Mods here be the escrow, if you have more than just flatulent at the mouth.

what are you babbling about? when did i say the trade deal with the US would take 10 years? you stated remainers would sabotage their own country, im saying you are a moron, lets see if the UK is better off in the case of a no deal , when they have to go cap in hand to everyone outside the EU from a position of weakness, and major industries are akready closing down or leaving to open european offices . it aint me who has "flatulent of the mouth" numbnuts.