Breivik wins human rights case against Norway

What about the rights of the 60 children he gunned down....

Fuck this guy. I hope he gets stabbed to death on Christmas.
 
Breivik lost on article 8 and won on article 3. The isolation is kind of inhumane, but how would you resolve it? He will get beat up in the general population.
 
Inhuman treatment sounds about right for an inhuman monster. Instead of some soft Norwegian prison his punishment should be administered Bolton style imo.
 
Yeah, murdering kids tends to make people unhappy with you. Act like an animal, get treated like one.
 
The question is: After living in the inhumane conditions that were forced upon him, will he recieve a few years off his sentance? Two wrongs don't make a right. I say he's pretty much payed his dues and has shown adequate remorse for his actions. He was just trying to make the world a better place in his own way but misjudged the situation. If they let him out, I doubt he'd do it again.

Why have him taking up public taxes for the rest of his life when he could be contributing towards society. It works out better for everyone if he's monitored correctly like :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:philes are. The Scandinavian justice system is fucking overkill.
 
The most outrageous thing about this is that "he is serving Norway's maximum sentence of 21 years".

I'm not a fan of degrading criminals, even if they've done awful things. You might as well apply capital punishment... You don't need to be nice to him, but I see no need for a punishment beyond actual imprisonment.
 
dontsnitch said:
The most outrageous thing about this is that "he is serving Norway's maximum sentence of 21 years".

I'm not a fan of degrading criminals, even if they've done awful things. You might as well apply capital punishment... You don't need to be nice to him, but I see no need for a punishment beyond actual imprisonment.
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In practice 21 years isn't the maximum sentence. There is something called 'forvaring' (i don't know what the english term would be) which means the sentence can be extended up to 5 years at a time, depending on how they assess the prisoner and the risk of relapse.
 
YoungBoyd said:
In practice 21 years isn't the maximum sentence. There is something called 'forvaring' (i don't know what the english term would be) which means the sentence can be extended up to 5 years at a time, depending on how they assess the prisoner and the risk of relapse.
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Okay, fair enough. What I think is that there should be a balance of punishment and risk aversion. Sentences should be more than making sure justice is served or that he won't relapse, but to serve as a warning for would-be criminals. These should all align. While I get that this doesn't deter crime, it should be done out of principle.

I don't think this guy will relapse, because his goal was met, but that's not enough of a reason to let him go after 21 years for this crime. Imo.

What's funny is that his worst fear is being realized while he's imprisoned.
 
In some instances i support prison justice. ..this is definitely one of them
 
YoungBoyd said:
In practice 21 years isn't the maximum sentence. There is something called 'forvaring' (i don't know what the english term would be) which means the sentence can be extended up to 5 years at a time, depending on how they assess the prisoner and the risk of relapse.
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The law states that the maximum sentence is 21 years, plain and simple. If they decide to detain him for another 5 years based on trivial matters such as the magnitude of his crimes and the results of his psych evaluation that makes him a political prisoner. Which to be fair is pretty barbaric. I don't condone what he did and wouldn't complain about capital punishment in this case if the laws were as such. However, special exceptions are toxic to any legal system. They teach others that they can operate outside the law and purposefully devalue human life. Which is exactly why Brevik did what he did in the first place. It's a vicious circle.
 
stop it with you retarded macho emotional jabber. it's because norway has a system like this that it is at the top of the world development index.and he's never coming out of prison.
 
dontsnitch said:
Okay, fair enough. What I think is that there should be a balance of punishment and risk aversion. Sentences should be more than making sure justice is served or that he won't relapse, but to serve as a warning for would-be criminals. These should all align. While I get that this doesn't deter crime, it should be done out of principle.

I don't think this guy will relapse, because his goal was met, but that's not enough of a reason to let him go after 21 years for this crime. Imo.

What's funny is that his worst fear is being realized while he's imprisoned.
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I don't know how common the extended sentences are though. Usually people get out after 2/3 of the time served because of 'good behaviour', which in Norway means pretty much everyone. It's just a more peaceful prison mileu so most people don't get into too much trouble while incarnated. Sadly the average killer would probably be out after 10 years served.
 
YoungBoyd said:
I don't know how common the extended sentences are though. Usually people get out after 2/3 of the time served because of 'good behaviour', which in Norway means pretty much everyone. It's just a more peaceful prison mileu so most people don't get into too much trouble while incarnated. Sadly the average killer would probably be out after 10 years served.
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That's not right.
 
dontsnitch said:
The most outrageous thing about this is that "he is serving Norway's maximum sentence of 21 years".

I'm not a fan of degrading criminals, even if they've done awful things. You might as well apply capital punishment... You don't need to be nice to him, but I see no need for a punishment beyond actual imprisonment.
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The problem is that most of his complaints are about stuff like cold coffee and the inability to spread propaganda on the internet, which shouldn't amount to anything more than a laugh. His conditions are already outrageously lavish for a prisoner, because of his "unique" circumstances, yet he keeps making more demands and filing more lawsuits.

Here's a look into the "inhuman conditions" that Breivik claims to be suffering from:

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35813470

At this point, he is just making a mockery of Norway's soft, bureaucratic system to see how far Norway is willing to accommodate even the worst criminal such as himself. He considers himself the living proof of the system's faults, the killer of over 60 children being treated like a king because of the system's obsession with his "equal" and "humane" treatment. At the same time, you have homeless people and beggars patrolling the streets, wishing they could afford half of Breivik's luxuries.
 
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