Brazil Vs USA Who really is the top country

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  1. originalbadguy

    originalbadguy Purple Belt

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    So if the UFC did a USA VS Brazil Contest
    And pitted the top 3 fighters at each weight Vs one another who would win
    I used Fight Matrix Rankings to get the top 3
    125
    Jussier Da Silva Vs Demetrious Johnson
    John Lineker Vs Joseph Benevidez
    Iliarde Santos Vs Zach Mahovsky
    3-0 USA

    135
    Renan Barao Vs Dillashaw
    Raphael Assuncao Vs Urijah Faber
    Iluri Alcantara Vs Michael McDonald
    Barao
    Faber
    Alcantara
    USA could sweep this one also these fights are close Not so sure they are not the favored in all 3

    4-2 USA

    145
    Jose Aldo Vs Chad Mendes
    Charles Oliveira Vs Frankie Edgar
    Diego Brandao Vs Cub Swanson
    Aldo
    Edgar This is a close fight
    Swanson

    6-3 USA

    155
    Rafael Dos Anjos VS Anthony Pettis
    Gleison Tibau Vs Ben Henderson
    Michel Richard Dos Orazeres (Barboza also) Vs Gilbert Melendez
    Pettis
    Henderson
    Melendez
    9-3

    170
    Demian Maia Vs Johnny Hendricks
    Erick Silva Vs Robbie Lawler
    Thiago Alves Vs Tyron Woodley
    Hendricks
    Lawler
    Woodley

    12-3

    185
    Lyoto Machida Vs Chris Weidman
    Vitor Belfort Vs Luke Rockhold
    Anderson Silva Vs Tim Kennedy
    Machida
    Belfort
    Silva
    12-6

    205
    Glover Teixeira Vs John Jones
    Mauricio Rua Vs Daniel Comier
    Rafael Cavalcante Vs Rashaad Evans
    Jones
    Comier
    Evans this might be really close also but gotta go Jones

    15-6

    HWT
    Junior Dos Santos Vs Cani Velasquez
    Fabricio Werdum Vs Travis Browne
    Antonio Silva Vs Vs Stipe Miocic
    Velasquez
    Werdum
    Silva

    16-8
    USA
     
  2. BrazilianDude

    BrazilianDude Gold Belt

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    I knew the answer, TS. At least you took the time to do it alittle different from other threads, I guess.

    Isn't Miocic croatian? EDIT: I was wrong
     
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  3. Ln

    Ln Blue Belt

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    what
     
  4. countswagula

    countswagula Gold Belt

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    Not reading all that stuff

    The US is the top country, obviously. It's where the sport's biggest promotion is based, where the wider talent pool lies, it has a potential feeder sport in wrestling that kids practice in school from their early years, it's where most of the top gyms are located, even ones founded by Brazilian teams, etc
     
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    kashmir #1 bullshit belt

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  6. originalbadguy

    originalbadguy Purple Belt

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    he is an american citizen
     
  7. BrazilianDude

    BrazilianDude Gold Belt

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    Meh... Not the same thing imo, but I don't want to get in this debate.
     
  8. originalbadguy

    originalbadguy Purple Belt

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    alot of people will argue brazil is the top country with the best fighters so i thought I would break it down
     
  9. frandie2b

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    I'm pretty sure China is the top country at Ping-Pong.
     
  10. blkmike817

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    Thought he was born in Ohio?
     
  11. HowAmINotMyself

    HowAmINotMyself Orange Belt

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    Born and raised in Cleveland by Croatian immigrants
     
  12. IngaVovchanchyn

    IngaVovchanchyn Titanium Belt Platinum Member

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    Stipe's parents are Croatian immigrants. He was born and raised in Ohio.
     
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    IngaVovchanchyn Titanium Belt Platinum Member

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    I see where you are coming from, but Stipe seems pretty Cleveland through and through.
     
  14. BrazilianDude

    BrazilianDude Gold Belt

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    My mistake then.
     
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    IngaVovchanchyn Titanium Belt Platinum Member

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    As far as which country has better fighters, I would bide my time before answering. Both the US and Brazil produce a lot of very good fighters.

    In the UFC I think American fighters have the edge, but that is not surprising given that it is a primarily US based promotion.

    Also, once the Brazilians learn a bit of the American art of jiu jitsu, they will fare better.
     
  16. Dontevenguess93

    Dontevenguess93 Brown Belt

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    Than by your logic many of those Brazilians are Americans.
     
  17. muaythaibeast

    muaythaibeast Brown Belt

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    It probably is the US right now, but remember judging and the rules are both hugely biased to support the american wrestler.
     
  18. GetWrecked

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    When I saw Barao vs Dillashaw and you picked Barao, I stopped reading.
     
  19. norsa

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    Trick question, Europe stomps em both.
     
  20. Rex Kwon Do

    Rex Kwon Do ál-ḥámdúlílláh

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    If a Brazilian was born and raised in Ohio, then yeah, they would be.

    Be a little more subtle with your sarcasm next time. Too obvious.
     

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