Media Brain Shaw says he’d beat Dustin in a real fight

Shaw could beat him, and Dustin could beat him as well.

It all depends on who gets to who first, if Dustin can clock him on the chin he can definitely put him away, but if Shaw can get a hold of him first he'll tie him in a knot. 50/50 I'd say.
 
Humongo said:
Those are not 250+ bodybuilders. The one on the left is Shaun Clarida who competes at about 185lb and is basically a midget.
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Didn’t know, thanks. Still, 185 super jacked guys look like tiny kids next to Shaw … Brian seems 3x their overall size, which he basically is (185/450).
 
Koro_11 said:
Shaw could beat him, and Dustin could beat him as well.

It all depends on who gets to who first, if Dustin can clock him on the chin he can definitely put him away, but if Shaw can get a hold of him first he'll tie him in a knot. 50/50 I'd say.
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Dustin is 5’9”, Shaw is 6’7” … if you ever spar with someone basically a foot taller than you, that chin is ridiculously far away between the height and the reach, which makes it very difficult to find and if you do it’s at the very end of your punches so without much power.

Imagine 5’9” Dustin fighting a 4’11” little kid, that’s about the size and strength difference.
 
piropiro said:
Dustin is 5’9”, Shaw is 6’7” … if you ever spar with someone basically a foot taller than you, that chin is ridiculously far away between the height and the reach, which makes it very difficult to find and if you do it’s at the very end of your punches so without much power.

Imagine 5’9” Dustin fighting a 4’11” little kid, that’s about the size and strength difference.
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Yeah, I hear you, but I’ve seen enough pride circus fights with guys like Bob Sapp, Giant Silva, or Hong Man Choi get beat by guys, like Cro Cop, Minowa, etc, so I don’t think just being much bigger is always enough. And I’m being very charitable to Brian Shaw, because he is a monster, and I give him a pretty good chance, but to say Dustin has none would be silly.
 
IneedSometop said:
He would kill dustin if he got on top at any point. but if the fight starts standing dustin could probably just matador him until he's so tired he can't do anything
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Fuck you talking about? He's not gonna chase dude around the ring like a retarded guy..

That a Brian Shaw win if Dustin just runs around the whole fight.
 
I grappled with hw and lhw sized guys when I was young and skinny ( 140 to 160 lbs) and when you have comparative skill levels, you can really see how much of a difference size and strength make.

Even if if you feel like you have a skill advantage, there are some positions you can get into where you feel pretty helpless.
 
Kowboy On Sherdog said:
2025 Bob Sapp

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Let's not pretend that Bob Sapp, the juiced-to-the-gills NFL washout, is anywhere NEAR as strong as Brian Shaw at ANY point in his fighting career. Even at Sapp's peak, Shaw is an inch taller, a HUNDRED POUNDS HEAVIER, and significantly stronger. Nog was also 6'3 ~240lbs.
 
broc5k said:
Let's not pretend that Bob Sapp, the juiced-to-the-gills NFL washout, is anywhere NEAR as strong as Brian Shaw at ANY point in his fighting career. Even at Sapp's peak, Shaw is an inch taller, a HUNDRED POUNDS HEAVIER, and significantly stronger. Nog was also 6'3 ~240lbs.
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Yeah. People are underestimating how freakishly strong Shaw is.
 
People are really not understanding that some guys react horribly to getting hit in the face.

First thing, if Dustin gets trapped under him he's in a world of trouble. This isn't Royce vs Severn. Shaw would be able to pin Dustin and take away any space and essentially do what Brock did to Mir in their second fight. If you think Shaw needs all kinds of room to do serious damage on a guy half his size...no. He'd hold one of Dustin's arms and land short punches that would bust up Dustin's face badly. Force = mass×acceleration. Maybe there wouldn't be a ton of acceleration but there would be a shit ton of mass in those canned hams he calls hands. And because of the sheer mass, he could likely hold Dustin down without spending much energy and gassing out quickly.

Which is why all the people saying leg kicks are a good idea for Dustin...I disagree. His strategy would need to be to avoid anything that would give Shaw the chance to take him down and get on top. A slip on a leg kick (any kick) could be the end of it. For Dustin, using constant movement and feints to land a few hard punches and quickly skirt away would be the strategy. In super quickly and back out. Bust up Shaw's face and see how he reacts. I've seen super strong, athletic dudes at the gym that would seemingly be nightmares to deal with just wilt when hit. Not KO'd in sparring or anything, but just realizing that getting punched wasn't for them. We had a guy who was a freak athlete, ragdolled most guys on the mat but quit MMA training and focused on grappling after getting his nose busted. Given the size of Shaw's neck, pretty doubtful Dustin KO's him. But busting his face up to where he starts to not want to be there and then starts to tire before he has the chance to get ahold of Dustin? Absolutely possible for a guy who's job has actually been to fight against the best other fighters in the world for over a decade (and mostly beat them).
 
It’s possible. It’s also possible that Poirier tires him out by forcing the bigger guy to chase him around. An actual fight wouldn’t just start on the mat like that.
 
Skarsgard said:
Yeah. People are underestimating how freakishly strong Shaw is.
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Lifting strength doesn’t directly translate to grappling strength. A lot of it will when the size difference is that wide though. But again, how is he going to get a hold of Poirier in any normal circumstance?
 
Superzorro said:
Lifting strength doesn’t directly translate to grappling strength. A lot of it will when the size difference is that wide though. But again, how is he going to get a hold of Poirier in any normal circumstance?
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Strongman translates a lot more than powerlifting, in my experience. For example, the grip it takes to hold and lift an atlas stone translates very well when it comes to clinching.
 
Dustin.. angle out, teep kick to the knee and it's over. Same move most with a combat skill set use on monstrous opposition when out and about. Big guys goes from talking crazy to screaming in pain like the little girl he is for wanting to fight someone so much smaller.
 
Shaw could beat Dustin agreed, but he wouldn’t stand a chance against the Super Hluk Champion MINOWAMAN!
 
Bar fight with concrete, walls, tables etc? I'd back shaw 100%

In an open area, Dustin may have an advantage. Heavier guys would smash brian, but these strongmen are hulks

I know DJ is much smaller than Dustin but fair play to him for admitting that Eddie hall would break him

Shaw has trained mma since that fun grapple and is much leanee now weighing around 370

I normally back the pro, but not this time
 
broc5k said:
Let's not pretend that Bob Sapp, the juiced-to-the-gills NFL washout, is anywhere NEAR as strong as Brian Shaw at ANY point in his fighting career. Even at Sapp's peak, Shaw is an inch taller, a HUNDRED POUNDS HEAVIER, and significantly stronger. Nog was also 6'3 ~240lbs.
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Shaw is stronger, but Sapp actually trained some martial arts.
 
Pretty sure Brian Shaw could pick up a 155 lb kettlebell weight by the finger tips. I don't think anyone under MW has anything for Brian Shaw. Just too much raw strength and a fair amount of athleticism.

If you're on his back trying to RNC Shaw and he flops backwards, what are the odds you keep that choke? Less than 50/50 for sure.

Just too much size. Even with striking/leg kicks/etc. Shaw just bulldoze his way to a bear hug and take any 155er down.
 
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