Boxing vs. Muay Thai: Better standup base for MMA?

Discussion in 'Standup Technique' started by TheRainSong, Jul 17, 2010.

  1. TheRainSong

    TheRainSong Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2010
    Messages:
    2,303
    Likes Received:
    0
    The science of 8 limbs with full use of the knees, kicks, elbows and clinch vs . the sweet science, the footwork, handpeed, distancing and timing of a boxer? Discuss
     
  2. Frode Falch

    Frode Falch Gold Belt Professional Fighter

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2005
    Messages:
    22,396
    Likes Received:
    21,131
    Location:
    Norway
    There is no solid answer to this.. Both are very good
     
  3. teknos1s

    teknos1s White Belt

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2010
    Messages:
    140
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Boston
    so would u rather be pretty good at everything or just really good at one thing?

    in the fight game, and in mma...

    you better be pretty good at everything

    Muay Thai
     
  4. iwrestle133**

    iwrestle133** Green Belt

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2010
    Messages:
    1,290
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Fresno, Ca
    I've been told its best to start out with Boxing as a base for Muay Thai and then work on the knees,elbows, kicks etc from there
     
    Bobbybackpack likes this.
  5. LOUD NOISES

    LOUD NOISES Blue Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2009
    Messages:
    633
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    845
    pretty much took the words outta my mouth
     
  6. Jandur

    Jandur Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2010
    Messages:
    2,513
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Chicago
    Hard to say. I think good boxing would trump MT. Kenny and Anderson are two fighters that seem to have moved from their MT to boxing as of late.

    MT is pretty sick though.
     
  7. raind

    raind Yellow Belt

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2009
    Messages:
    186
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Venezuela
    The most complete overall: Muay thai obviously.
    Just as effective depending on the fighter: Boxing.
     
  8. thenumberfour

    thenumberfour Orange Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2010
    Messages:
    327
    Likes Received:
    1
    Boxing.
     
    Bobbybackpack likes this.
  9. gs23**

    gs23** Green Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2010
    Messages:
    1,035
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    elsa, tx
    best bases

    standup: boxing
    ground: wrestling

    its easier to learn something more complex bjj/mt after having a solid base in boxing/wrestling.
     
    Bobbybackpack likes this.
  10. simplywin

    simplywin Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2010
    Messages:
    1,852
    Likes Received:
    0
    I like boxing, but I would prefer muay thai because it is more diverse this was hard to call
     
  11. somber

    somber Yellow Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2009
    Messages:
    224
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Sailing the infinite depths of the internet
    I'm not trying to be one of those appeasing fuckers, but i truly believe that both boxing and muay thai both are great bases so its a personal preference (boxing for me :)), providing of cause you learn the fabulously underrated side-check kick from boxing.
     
    Paradigm likes this.
  12. Thrasher666

    Thrasher666 Green Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2010
    Messages:
    1,219
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Montreal,QC
    Both are equally good. Depends on what you like more , I like MT more.
     
  13. csroster

    csroster Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2010
    Messages:
    13,402
    Likes Received:
    1,991
    Location:
    Harrisburg, PA
    I'd say MT if nothing else but to deal with leg kicks.
     
  14. FIGHT FAN

    FIGHT FAN Brown Belt

    Joined:
    May 17, 2005
    Messages:
    2,515
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Pier 6
    You need both. Which one should you emphasize? That is up to you. Some guys prefer to keep both legs under them, and box. Some guys don't mind throwing a lot of kicks, and potentially exposing themselves to a take down.
     
  15. Steakeater**

    Steakeater** Banned Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2008
    Messages:
    11,324
    Likes Received:
    9
    I'll tell you that if you are going with boxing, still take muay thai to learn defense
     
  16. BOMB LEFT HOOK

    BOMB LEFT HOOK Banned Banned

    Joined:
    May 8, 2010
    Messages:
    369
    Likes Received:
    1
    you need both period

    but i chose boxing first then worked muay thai exclamation point
     
    Bobbybackpack likes this.
  17. p4pbest

    p4pbest Yellow Belt

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2009
    Messages:
    163
    Likes Received:
    1
    no!!!!

    They are entirely different!!!!
     
  18. Frode Falch

    Frode Falch Gold Belt Professional Fighter

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2005
    Messages:
    22,396
    Likes Received:
    21,131
    Location:
    Norway
    Rampage and Bj Penn are both guys who uses more or less only boxing as their stand-up base. Rampage dont like lowkicks. Bj Penn is a bit better on the kicking defense.
     
    Bobbybackpack likes this.
  19. KBE6EKCTAH_CCP

    KBE6EKCTAH_CCP ^Korean Chef Kevin Lee, NOT Fighter Kevin Lee

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2009
    Messages:
    11,489
    Likes Received:
    8,886
    Like most have said, both are excellent. It's a very touch call.

    I would say that very good boxing is an even greater asset then very good muy thai.

    However, you need to be able to check leg kicks and defend knees from the clinch, which you will not learn in boxing.

    So as a short answer I would say Muy Thai, but knowing that boxing can take you further under certain assumptions (the long answer).

    At the end of the day both are the ultimate striking arts.
     
  20. koreankid6413

    koreankid6413 Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2006
    Messages:
    3,238
    Likes Received:
    4
    Location:
    South Korea
    Once again it depends on how well the fighter adapts. To be honest though, if I had to pick one it would be boxing. The lower stance and quicker footwork and distance would be able to transfer to mma much easier than the more straight forward upright thai stance.
    Of course not learning kicks and knees at all along with the defense to those would end up to seriously kill you, I think it's more important to learn the base of a stance and footwork before you start using your offensive weapons. Along with the fact that the fighter could always fall back on his hands yet have the ability to learn to throw multiple strikes would I think probably further benefit him.
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.