Boxing Mitt Work

TheMachinegun12 said:
This quote makes no sense. I am here to give an outlook from a dutch kickboxing angle. If you feel my points are inaccurate please counter them so that I might learn something from you. Point is this: you train as you fight, if you train like a muay thai fighter that is neglecting kicks during training, you are going to fight that way too.
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I love you. Give him hell.
 
AndyMaBobs said:
lol, he's a professional muay thai fighter, he's doing boxing specific training.


Also @shincheckin - I know its a combination of the microphone and echo in the room, but every single grunt you make sounds like a video game sound effect
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i guess thats where i got the name 8-bit lol
 
TheMachinegun12 said:
This quote makes no sense. I am here to give an outlook from a dutch kickboxing angle. If you feel my points are inaccurate please counter them so that I might learn something from you. Point is this: you train as you fight, if you train like a muay thai fighter that is neglecting kicks during training, you are going to fight that way too.
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You work on individual aspects then mesh them in regular practice

Its the same when you do BJJ gi work then put it in mma practice. Yes there are lots that needs addressing when going in full rules , but you still need specific work.
 
TheMachinegun12 said:
This quote makes no sense. I am here to give an outlook from a dutch kickboxing angle. If you feel my points are inaccurate please counter them so that I might learn something from you. Point is this: you train as you fight, if you train like a muay thai fighter that is neglecting kicks during training, you are going to fight that way too.
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j123 said:
You work on individual aspects then mesh them in regular practice

Its the same when you do BJJ gi work then put it in mma practice. Yes there are lots that needs addressing when going in full rules , but you still need specific work.
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It's a reasonable argument and i would agree with it wouldn't it be for the fact that you are neglecting 50% of your attacking capabilities and are ingraining bad motor patterns by not ultilizing the shins and knees.

When you get hit, all plans go out the window and you fight on instinct. If you train this instinct to be only punches you miss out on other weapons.
 
You'd be right if you are talking about a beginner. He's not. He's been doing this longer than some of the posters here have been alive, doing work in a lower stance helps you learn to develop balance in a taller stance.

Also, he's actually not that low to the ground, here look at this:



Bazooka is doing the same thing here, and this guy was the Glory middleweight champion and employed a fairly dutch style. What @shincheckin is doing is completely fine even from a kickboxing stand point, he is simply allowing himself to get leverage into his punches, he probably won't stand that low in an actual fight, if he were doing it all the time even lower I'd agree there would be a bit of an issue, but for this to be one specific exercise, I don't think it's enough to cause any significant problems, it's not like he's shadowboxing and trying to throw high kicks from a low stance
 
Hmm there’s a couple of things I am not a fan of...

But if I had to point one thing... every time you lead with your rear uppercut.. yuack. No power and you’re rushing through the combo as if you’re playing patty cakes with him. Hands drop during that specific combo..
 
shincheckin said:
So the post was weird off the bat, and sounded alot like spacetime, and was coming from a random new profile that has barely made any posts, and this weird random spacetime sounding dude is supporting spacetime. Deeper into the spacetime continuum we dive!
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If true then that is depressing.
 
shincheckin said:
So the post was weird off the bat, and sounded alot like spacetime, and was coming from a random new profile that has barely made any posts, and this weird random spacetime sounding dude is supporting spacetime. Deeper into the spacetime continuum we dive!
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This is so great. I am must be clearly driving you insane to start these conspiracy thoughts. Lmao
 
TheMachinegun12 said:
It's a reasonable argument and i would agree with it wouldn't it be for the fact that you are neglecting 50% of your attacking capabilities and are ingraining bad motor patterns by not ultilizing the shins and knees.

When you get hit, all plans go out the window and you fight on instinct. If you train this instinct to be only punches you miss out on other weapons.
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50% you say........maths not your strong point........

Art of 8 limbs and he's only using 2 does not make 50% he's neglecting 75% of his Muay Thai weapons.......
 
I can only speak from a pure Boxing perspective, but like others have said, it's important to simulate a fight when doing drills or padwork. My coach has me pivoting, moving in and out, blocking, catching, and moving my head when we do padwork.

I haven't fought yet, and I don't know you, or your coach, so take my words with a pinch of salt, I just feel those additions to my padwork has paid dividends in sparring.

Hope your fight went in your favour!
 
some of the comments really could be a little more friendly and less condescending. After all someone posts a training clip to entertain you.

Sure a little talk about what can be done different why not but we dont know most of the relevant info about why he is doing it this way. Its just a video and all the important stuff will be corrected between him and his coach or is deliberately planned to be executed this way.

I get the feeling that some of Floyd Mayweathers heavy bag work would be critiziced hard here if it werent for him because its different. "man he is not moving in out of distance , he is ingraining bad motor patterns". "hey floyd FOOTWORK!! ":D
 
listrahtes said:
some of the comments really could be a little more friendly and less condescending. After all someone posts a training clip to entertain you.

Sure a little talk about what can be done different why not but we dont know most of the relevant info about why he is doing it this way. Its just a video and all the important stuff will be corrected between him and his coach or is deliberately planned to be executed this way.

I get the feeling that some of Floyd Mayweathers heavy bag work would be critiziced hard here if it werent for him because its different. "man he is not moving in out of distance , he is ingraining bad motor patterns". "hey floyd FOOTWORK!! ":D
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I've done exactly that. There was a vid posted where Floyd was practicing a leap-in single powerjab with his elbows flared. I warned people not to copy what he was doing because he was trying something experimental/odd isolated, but everyone wanted to pretend like I was saying that Floyd didn't have a proper grasp of boxing, lol

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And a hearty lol to people saying you can't train different components at different times. Do we have to be doing MMA training only, at all times? Clearly the way to get sharp is to train some things separately. Why are you so worried? It's not like he's given up training other aspects of MT.

A knee specialist will train knees more, because that's what gets him those wins. An kicking wizard will throw more kicks in training (as well as in the ring) and often train only kicks for long stretches. It makes sense because that's what they use to get those wins as a specialist, so that's what they spend more time on. I don't know anyone who is 100% all-around, everyone who is any good becomes a specialist at something or another.
 
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shincheckin said:
So the post was weird off the bat, and sounded alot like spacetime, and was coming from a random new profile that has barely made any posts, and this weird random spacetime sounding dude is supporting spacetime. Deeper into the spacetime continuum we dive!
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Bruh you have ST-PTSD
 
AndyMaBobs said:
You'd be right if you are talking about a beginner. He's not. He's been doing this longer than some of the posters here have been alive, doing work in a lower stance helps you learn to develop balance in a taller stance.

Also, he's actually not that low to the ground, here look at this:



Bazooka is doing the same thing here, and this guy was the Glory middleweight champion and employed a fairly dutch style. What @shincheckin is doing is completely fine even from a kickboxing stand point, he is simply allowing himself to get leverage into his punches, he probably won't stand that low in an actual fight, if he were doing it all the time even lower I'd agree there would be a bit of an issue, but for this to be one specific exercise, I don't think it's enough to cause any significant problems, it's not like he's shadowboxing and trying to throw high kicks from a low stance
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high kick from low stance can be done too lol. im not sure the name of it, MMA guys do it quite a bit, swing the head low to one side and kick high. you know which one im talking about?
 
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