Boxing is dead

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BlazeHart said:
I love how everyone uses Mercer>Sylvia as a way to say boxing is better, when it clearly isn't.

There's a reason only a select few boxing fights could sell out arena's now, and ALMOST every UFC, WEC, Strikeforce and Dream event gets packed arena's. When you watch boxing now, they are all in super small venues like college basketball stadiums and casino's, it's funny. The only exceptions are when Pacman or Mayweather fight, or for the super six 'classic'.

Even James Toney said it, and he hates MMA.
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The ufc and WEC get subsidized by daddy, they don't sell out arenas, unless they're small.

Strikeforce sells out HP pavilion in SJ.
DREAM sells out because it has the best fans anywhere. Plus their cards are exciting.
 
Top 10 PPV buy rates, 2009
1. UFC 100: Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir, July 11, 1.6 million
2. Boxing: Manny Pacquiao vs. Miguel Cotto, Nov. 14, 1.25 million
3. Boxing: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Juan Manuel Marquez, Sept. 19, 1.05 millon
4. UFC 94: Georges St. Pierre vs. B.J. Penn, Jan. 31, 920,000 buys
5. UFC 101: Penn vs. Kenny Florian/Anderson Silva vs. Forrest Griffin, Aug. 8, 850,000
6. Boxing: Pacquiao vs. Ricky Hatton, May 2, 825,000
7t. UFC 107: Penn vs. Diego Sanchez, Dec. 12, 650,000
7t. UFC 97: Silva vs. Thales Leites/Chuck Liddell vs. Mauricio Rua, April 18, 650,000
9. UFC 98: Lyoto Machida vs. Rashad Evans/Matt Hughes vs. Matt Serra, May 23, 635,000
10. Wrestling: WWE WrestleMania 25, April 5, 582,000 buys




Like I said, Manny and Floyd are boxings only draws. Once they retire, boxing will be devoured into oblivion further more than it already has.
 
BlazeHart said:
Top 10 PPV buy rates, 2009
1. UFC 100: Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir, July 11, 1.6 million
2. Boxing: Manny Pacquiao vs. Miguel Cotto, Nov. 14, 1.25 million
3. Boxing: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Juan Manuel Marquez, Sept. 19, 1.05 millon
4. UFC 94: Georges St. Pierre vs. B.J. Penn, Jan. 31, 920,000 buys
5. UFC 101: Penn vs. Kenny Florian/Anderson Silva vs. Forrest Griffin, Aug. 8, 850,000
6. Boxing: Pacquiao vs. Ricky Hatton, May 2, 825,000
7t. UFC 107: Penn vs. Diego Sanchez, Dec. 12, 650,000
7t. UFC 97: Silva vs. Thales Leites/Chuck Liddell vs. Mauricio Rua, April 18, 650,000
9. UFC 98: Lyoto Machida vs. Rashad Evans/Matt Hughes vs. Matt Serra, May 23, 635,000
10. Wrestling: WWE WrestleMania 25, April 5, 582,000 buys




Like I said, Manny and Floyd are boxings only draws. Once they retire, boxing will be devoured into oblivion further more than it already has.
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The ufc is a private company, so they can put out any number they want.
 
XCuTioNeR said:
Keep sucking Dana's ****, tool :rolleyes:
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Dana is a fucking douchebag, don't even go there.

I love all MMA, I do not care what organization it's under, I don't care who the shady boss is, all I care about is the sport itself.

Dana >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don King, Bob Arum, and everyone else by the way.
 
jlagman said:
The Klitchkos sell out German stadiums not colleges, Saul Alvarez gets paid hundreds of thousands of dollars at age 20, don't be ignorant about it.
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The way boxing pays it's fighters is ridiculous.. getting millions and millions of dollars for 36 minutes of punching somebody? NOBODY deserves that kind of money. C'mon, man.. and people wonder why there are so many starving people out there.

The only reason boxing has a better social acceptance and more money within the sport is due to the fact that it's been around a hell of a lot longer.
 
Sonny said:
As opposed to 3x5 minutes of two dudes in the missionary position?
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the dude is obviously gay if he would rather watch pro wrestling than boxing. He is just in it for the ripped dudes in tight underoos.
 
BlazeHart said:
There's a reason only a select few boxing fights could sell out arena's now, and ALMOST every UFC, WEC, Strikeforce and Dream event gets packed arena's. When you watch boxing now, they are all in super small venues like college basketball stadiums and casino's, it's funny. The only exceptions are when Pacman or Mayweather fight, or for the super six 'classic'.
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College basketball stadiums? What fights take place in college basketball stadiums, excluding the Thomas and Mack Center in Las Vegas, which is bigger than both the Mandalay Bay and MGM Grand? Taylor vs Lacy a couple of years ago was the last medium sized fight to take place at a college basketball venue, but that's not even a big fight.


BlazeHart said:
The way boxing pays it's fighters is ridiculous.. getting millions and millions of dollars for 36 minutes of punching somebody? NOBODY deserves that kind of money. C'mon, man.. and people wonder why there are so many starving people out there.
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If they can generate that amount of money, why wouldn't they deserve it?
 
BlazeHart said:
The way boxing pays it's fighters is ridiculous.. getting millions and millions of dollars for 36 minutes of punching somebody? NOBODY deserves that kind of money. C'mon, man.. and people wonder why there are so many starving people out there.

The only reason boxing has a better social acceptance and more money within the sport is due to the fact that it's been around a hell of a lot longer.
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Exactly, boxing needs ufc style slave wages.

War ultimate fightin'!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
BlazeHart said:
Dana is a fucking douchebag, don't even go there.

I love all MMA, I do not care what organization it's under, I don't care who the shady boss is, all I care about is the sport itself.

Dana >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don King, Bob Arum, and everyone else by the way.
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Um... not really they're all the same, minus Don's stomp.
 
BlazeHart said:
The way boxing pays it's fighters is ridiculous.. getting millions and millions of dollars for 36 minutes of punching somebody? NOBODY deserves that kind of money. C'mon, man.. and people wonder why there are so many starving people out there.

The only reason boxing has a better social acceptance and more money within the sport is due to the fact that it's been around a hell of a lot longer.
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but MMA fighters deserve the purse they get for hugging for 15 minutes....?

stand up fighting >>>>>>>>>>>>> *

Boxing is recognized around the world.....

when you hear "Undisputed heavywieght Champion of the World"...the majority do not know or care about Brock Lesnar....

ask someone if they watch "The Fight" over the weekend....most automatically think BOXING.....

MMA is local kid....

tell me when they will start having fights at MSG....lol....
 
BlazeHart said:
I wonder why 'big' PPV boxing fights air on ESPN for free like 3 days after it happens? :icon_chee
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No, they do not air on ESPN three days after it happens, or a week, or a month, or ever. ESPN does not have access to HBO's archive. They have limited access to Showtime's, but Showtime has not been in the PPV business for years.
 
Prophetic~Poet said:
tell me when they will start having fights at MSG....lol....
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The second MMA is legalized in New York (Which it should be), MSG will be sold out insanely quickly.

Wait till they sell out the Rogers Centre in Toronto in 2011 (50,000+ seats)
 
FreshPrince said:
No, they do not air on ESPN three days after it happens, or a week, or a month, or ever. ESPN does not have access to HBO's archive. They have limited access to Showtime's, but Showtime has not been in the PPV business for years.
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Excuse me then, TSN** (In Canada) which is owned by ESPN.

I remember seeing Pacqiuao/Clottey days later, and Mosley vs. whoever was just on the other night too (and that just happened extremely recently)
 
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