Boxing: Infighting

As the threads been hijacked already I'll chip in.

Facing someone a lot better than me in sparring before I broke my foot, I always got caught by the 2nd of a double jab, I'm not sure why, it felt like I was seeing it too late and couldn't move sufficiently - I think I was seeing it too late because of blocking the first one. Is that possible lol? Or perhaps he was stepping outside and I didn't see the step? Either way it was annoying, ne simple tips on things to work on to sort this, even just drills to work on on the bag where I don't have a partner..
 
I like to close out my workouts with infighting on the heavybag... If i'm gassed, i can lean and work tech.
 
Okay, so to get the thread back on track:

What are the most resourceful punches in an infighters arsenal?

When you get inside and land combos, are there any tips for turning the guy and pivoting out?
 
A thing I do while inside is pop off an uppercut and a hook then kind of push off his shoulder while i pivot out.
 
Okay, so to get the thread back on track:

What are the most resourceful punches in an infighters arsenal?

When you get inside and land combos, are there any tips for turning the guy and pivoting out?

Pivoting out? This is a concept I cannot grasp. I just took a big risk to get inside. I think I will just camp there and make my opponent pay dearly while I am there. If anyone is concerned about getting space it will be him.


Most important shots. Short hooks to the ribs and head. And the shoulder bump if he tries to put his head on your shoulder, it makes space to throw better punches.
 
When you get inside and land combos, are there any tips for turning the guy and pivoting out?

The check-hook:

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You can do this from the inside by just stepping back and knowing the guy will fall-in on you, throw that hook, and pivot to your lead-side.

I also find uppercuts the most underutilized tool on the inside. GOOD uppercuts. Especially to the body.
 
Pivoting out? This is a concept I cannot grasp. I just took a big risk to get inside. I think I will just camp there and make my opponent pay dearly while I am there. If anyone is concerned about getting space it will be him.

I find that turning your opponent leaves him incredibly vulnerable. He has to turn to meet you and by that time, I've popped off a combination and have placed myself somewhere else.
 
The check-hook:

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You can do this from the inside by just stepping back and knowing the guy will fall-in on you, throw that hook, and pivot to your lead-side.

I also find uppercuts the most underutilized tool on the inside. GOOD uppercuts. Especially to the body.

Nice gif. I'm wondering though, when I pivot to my lead side after a hook should I be stepping with my foot and then pivoting, or just pivot? Or does it really matter?
 
Pivoting out? This is a concept I cannot grasp. I just took a big risk to get inside. I think I will just camp there and make my opponent pay dearly while I am there. If anyone is concerned about getting space it will be him.

lol. Hey man, the inside is overrated anyways. Where you REALLY want to be is the sides. :icon_chee
 
Pivoting out? This is a concept I cannot grasp. I just took a big risk to get inside. I think I will just camp there and make my opponent pay dearly while I am there. If anyone is concerned about getting space it will be him.


Most important shots. Short hooks to the ribs and head. And the shoulder bump if he tries to put his head on your shoulder, it makes space to throw better punches.

You never heard of giving your opponent angles? You don't have to give him space when you change angles.
 
You never heard of giving your opponent angles? You don't have to give him space when you change angles.

I think we are having a difference in terminology. When I think inside I mean closer to the opponent than being at the end of his jab. Of course I worked angles once under his jab. I would side step,more like a shuffle, and roll back to center.But I tried to stay inside of his reach as long as possible and not pivot out clear to the outside again.
 
The idea of pivoting outward is just to get more surface area to hit that doesn't have both gloves in the way. How far you'd go depends on your reach and where you feel most comfortable. I pivot all the way out because I like to move in AND out, as I fight well on the back foot. But if that's not your game, then it'd be silly to do and you should pivot more in the manner of Jose Luis Castillo, which is staying on the inside.
 
I was watching this video clip and this thread came to mind



watch the combo at 4:15 of the video how floyd creates space to punch by pushing away with the shoulder then BAM absolutely tags him.

Beautiful combo.
 
I classify myself as a medium range counter fighter. However, my main sparring partner is a southpaw long range specialist (he is 6 inches taller than me). He can hit me long before I can even reach him. Throwing jab combos do nothing as they are not threatening and also weaken my defences. To break ground and get inside his long reach I tend to stay a few cm outside his reach. I try to get him either moving forward at me or over reach for me. Once I see how he comes at me, I time my counter. I counter by attacking AS he attacks. For example, if he throws his right jab at me, I slip to the outside of his jab and in and throw my right cross all at the same time. This type of movement is the core of my counter fighting style.

The same strategies work against an orthodox fighter too. When the orthodox fighter throws their left jab, I take a step forward and to the outside of their jab (with right foot) and throw my power jab. They often walk straight into my punches. Once the first punch hits (even on their guard), I move in with my aggressive inside fighting tactics. Once one the inside, I basically move side to side (slipping or weaving under their attacks) using the movement to get more power into me attacks.

This works for me and my style has evolved from being hit many many times from a fighter with substantially more reach than me.
 
any advice about throwing your cross or straight on the inside without jamming your punch? I've been having this problem lately and its frustrating.
 
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