I'm getting the impression, though I might be wrong, that some people are thinking old schooler like Dempsey actively wrestled during boxing matches. They didn't if that's the case. There were varying moments of time a fighter could punch a downed opponent and hold at the hips with a limited form of grappling. Ever since Broughton's rules in the 17th century there has been a down count to allow your opponent to stand after thirty seconds.
Also Dempsey's affection for wrestling might be a little exaggerated. After Dempsey retired and was in need of money he took on freak show style cross over fights with wrestlers, the legitimacy of which are in question. During that time he actively referred to wrestlers as easy money. At the time they were considered proxy matches to test how Dempsey would do should he return to boxing - sources say he looked poor a lot of the time but still came out on top. There are many old instances of boxers taking on wrestlers and simply pummelling them.
"Jack could still hit a ton," Cole said, "but his legs were gone."Happily, the grotesque image of a wheezing middle-aged man clubbing wrestlers has faded. What remain vivid are pictures of the young tiger of the Western minefields using his flashing fists to destroy Jess Willard. Georges Carpentier and Luis Firpo
fighters in those days fought for real, just read dempseys bio, he won't be able to give you any of the pussy names for techniques like "whizzer" or "flamer" but he knew how to wrestle. Practical experience always trumps pussy shit.
Gene Tunney
Venroy July - Upcoming Cruiserweight was New England Champion then wrestled at UNC
Mark Brown - Recently retired Heavyweight was NJ state Champ
O'neal Bell and Kelvin Davis were both state champs. I believe in DE
Paul Burlenbach was Olympic wrestler and later middle weight boxing champ
Another thing is that a good trainer will incorporate some elements grappling into the training regime normally to manipulate the opponent. Boxers may not even realise it but themselves but they do still learn some elements of grappling.
Close...Berlenbach was an Olympic alternate in the 1920 games...never made it to the mat.....and then the light heavyweight boxing champ some years later.
Boxers who wrestled ? hmmmmmmm.....The following list of guys went from boxing to the pro wrestling ranks.
Randy Turpin
Tony Galento
Primo Carnera
Yvon Durelle
Terry Downes
And check him out at almost 80yrs old.
Haha that makes Sapp look even more like a pussy, since he used the apple crush to show off on some talk show.
Haha that makes Sapp look even more like a pussy, since he used the apple crush to show off on some talk show.
Haha that makes Sapp look even more like a pussy, since he used the apple crush to show off on some talk show.
No, but this does:It doesn't make Sapp look as much of a pussy as you'd like to think, as opposed to Hodge just being a certified badass.
This is interestingI think we did a thread like this some years back....
but it's always interesting.
So let me start:
MC Paul Barman - wrestled in grade,middle and high school.
Took up boxing in college and got whooped by two puerto rican kids and ditched his dreams to become a professional boxer.... but now is an avid fan.
Okay, okay.....
O'Neil Bell - Cruiser weight boxer who was a state wrestling champion in high school. Had scholarship offers for colleges.
Mormeck clocking Bell - apparently for taking up boxing too late. Mormeck was offended that wrestling held Bell's affections for as long as it did:
Tyson Wrestled in high school. Read that in a article, can't find the link
Took up boxing in college and got whooped by two puerto rican kids