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Boxer in MMA - SPOILER Couture vs Toney

Discussion in 'Standup Technique' started by KBE6EKCTAH_CCP, Aug 29, 2010.

  1. devante Silver Belt

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    exactly- randy has been willing to trade w/the best and most devastating strikers in mma vera rizzo liddel sylvia; but didn't even attempt to strike or put himself in a position to be struck by toney.

    its weird as much as they bag on boxers; its the only art where when a top guy comes in NOONE will so much as attempt to exchange at all, i have seen people trade w/rizzo-cro cop-liddel-rampage-lil nog-rua-wanderlei-anderson. But they won't dare do anything but pick peck then shoot against a legit boxer, odd.
     
  2. thirteen Brown Belt

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    My sentiments exactly mate.

    Quoted for truthness.
     
  3. BBQpork Blue Belt

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    I remember Gilbert Yvel saying the only guy he would use his ground game on is Mike Tyson.
     
  4. deluxeMT Orange Belt

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    Uh yeah, but a pro boxer with YEARS of grappling training/experience would then cease to be a pro boxer and would be an MMA artist.....
     
  5. thirteen Brown Belt

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    Randy didn't fear standing with:
    Gabriel Gonzaga
    Brandon Vera
    Brock Lesnar
    Tim Sylvia
    Chuck Liddell
    Vitor Belfort
    Pedro Rizzo
    Maurice Smith

    And yet he wasn't willing to stand with a 42 year old overweight boxer
    10 years past his prime for even 1 minute...

    If that's not proof of how much an elite MMA fighter respects
    the hands of a legit boxer than I'll never know what is.
     
  6. devante Silver Belt

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    people keep skipping over the very salient point you and i have made in regards to how feared/respected the boxer is; mma guys go from mma fighters to pure grapplers for fear of getting TOUCHED by A LEGIT BOXER./
     
  7. barnowl Green Belt

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    I think it has more to do with MMA crowd learning from the mistake in the Mercer fight. Tim let Mercer punch and lost stupid fast to a single cross.
     
  8. Hellbows White Belt

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    Well if you put Toney against one of the best Greco-Roman wrestlers in the business what did you expect would happen? Against, for example, another fighter who relies on boxing for standup primarily (Little Nog?) the results MAY (read that as a strong MAY) have been a bit different. But if you put any strict standup fighter against any incredibly skilled wrestler there's only going to be one result every single time.
     
  9. Kozbot Purple Belt

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    to defend grappling you must learn grappling

    you cannot stay on your feet with only striking because it does not teach you too
     
  10. KBE6EKCTAH_CCP Vive le Québec libre !

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    Ironically greco roman doesn't have leg takedowns...
     
  11. oldshadow Steel Belt

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    Yea Randy should have fought Tony using the tools that Tony has been perfecting for his whole fighting life. It was Randy
     

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