Body Triangle or Double hooks???

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Hey guys, i was just wondering if you prefer getting back position with a body triangle or double leg hooks and why?

Personally, I like body triangles just because they come more naturally to me.
 
I prefer the hooks. First, I have dwarf legs. Secondly, I like the mobility afforded to me with the hooks (Armbars and bow and arrow chokes are easier to transition to when I don't have to switch out of a body triangle. Also, re-mounting is easier.) Thirdly, 4 points. Gotta go with that!
 
I completely agree with keynote... You can use the hooks and easily trap 1 arm, wheras if you have a body triangle you can't unlock and trap an arm as easy, and switching between back mount / mount / bow-and-arrow / armbar is much easier. And as keynote said 4 points.
 
codemonkey76 said:
I completely agree with keynote... You can use the hooks and easily trap 1 arm, wheras if you have a body triangle you can't unlock and trap an arm as easy, and switching between back mount / mount / bow-and-arrow / armbar is much easier. And as keynote said 4 points.
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I guess that makes sense. I should probably start using that more than a body triangle then huh?
 
jarra22 said:
I guess that makes sense. I should probably start using that more than a body triangle then huh?
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I'd focus on it, yeah. In my opinion, body triangle is fairly advantageous for MMA because it allows you to posture and punch. In BJJ, I believe it'll hinder you for the reasons I gave above. I don't want to think of a body triangle as a 'crutch' for solid control, but you ought to learn how to do it with the hooks so that you'll be able to attack and move as you please.

I know I've used the body triangle before because it feels like such good and easy control, but I try not to do it anymore because I want to be able to have the same control (if not more so) with my hooks alone.

I'm kind of rambling, but the hooks are more dynamic.
 
I usually only go for the body triangle if I have the guy on his side and I feel that it would be easy to slap the triangle on. I don't usually hunt for the body triangle.

I prefer the hooks for better mobility like others have stated.
 
Off-angle body triangle. Easy for my long legs to wrap around them, holds them in place, and no chance for a footlock.
 
I have no general preference. I pick depending on the situation.
 
one thing I look at is Marcelo Garcia is the king of taking the back and back control, and he uses hooks, so what's good for Marcelo is good for me.
 
I use both, but whenever I can lock in the body triangle, I usually do. I need to open up to get submissions, but It's better to lock in the position imo.
 
Always hooks. I want the mobility. Whenever someone does for the body triangle I'm look for the ankle lock.
 
I prefer Hooks because I consider it a superior position. Like others, I would site the mobility advantage and submission advantage.

I want to think like I my opponent. If I'm in a body triangle, I know I have to worry about two things: defending the choke and escaping - not as easily, sure, but that's about it. If the opponent is using hooks, I've a lot more to worry about.
 
Lack of mobility and limited sub choices is actually what I like the most about the body triangle. You can hang in there for as long as you want and that laser-like focus on the RNC makes it easier to eventually sink in. The sword cuts both ways, yes, but the wound is deeper for the defender.
 
honestly neither. I use both, and several more positions to control from the back depending on the circumstance.

My preferred starting point is actually a single hook with my knees pinched on the hips. lots of options from here, in fact most of the time I put my second hook in for three seconds to get the points then go back the the single hook.
 
Mikey Triangles said:
honestly neither. I use both, and several more positions to control from the back depending on the circumstance.

My preferred starting point is actually a single hook with my knees pinched on the hips. lots of options from here, in fact most of the time I put my second hook in for three seconds to get the points then go back the the single hook.
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Just curious and looking to learn, how do you usually attack from there?
 
thereddestruby said:
Just curious and looking to learn, how do you usually attack from there?
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Depends on what the opponent does, mostly just dig for the RNC. I like it better because when my opponent tries to bridge his weight onto me I can just hip away with my free leg and keep him on his side without losing any control.

Also I can bring my leg up for a low hook attempt and when they block I can come around and trap the arm without losing control.

Also when they try to put their back flat to the ground to escape I can just switch to a japanese grapvine triangle on the one leg and attack from there with twisters, banana splits,etc. and anytime I want just grab a seatbelt and take back control back again... sometimes that stuff isn't legal so it's good to get in the habit of regrouping with a seatbelt grip. In the past year I trimmed a lot of the fat from my game and stuff like twisters I don't use much anymore. I mainly just use that japanese grapevine to stop the escape now.
 
It depends. If i've gotten the points and I need to maintain. then I go body triangle. Otherwise, hooks, because they're more dynamic and allow for easy armbars.
 
Mikey Triangles said:
Depends on what the opponent does, mostly just dig for the RNC. I like it better because when my opponent tries to bridge his weight onto me I can just hip away with my free leg and keep him on his side without losing any control.

Also I can bring my leg up for a low hook attempt and when they block I can come around and trap the arm without losing control.

Also when they try to put their back flat to the ground to escape I can just switch to a japanese grapvine triangle on the one leg and attack from there with twisters, banana splits,etc. and anytime I want just grab a seatbelt and take back control back again... sometimes that stuff isn't legal so it's good to get in the habit of regrouping with a seatbelt grip. In the past year I trimmed a lot of the fat from my game and stuff like twisters I don't use much anymore. I mainly just use that japanese grapevine to stop the escape now.
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Quick question, are you talking about the regular escape where you bridge a bit and fall to one side? I assume it is, but I've recently been caught in this position a lot and it's proven to be a tough nut to crack.
 
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