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Wrestling world championships is definitely not the same as winning the Olympics
definitely pretty close lolWrestling world championships is definitely not the same as winning the Olympics
yeah but Bo wont be on his back getting GNPd for 20 minutes. Bo will be the one putting people on his back. A lot of elite folkstyle guys dont take a lot of damage. Askren for 20 seconds took damage but outside of that his career has been smooth sailing. Made Lima and Koreshkov look like childrenYou always hear this shit from wrestlers (+ bjj guys), but mostly nothing comes.
Many elite wrestlers in russia dont even try MMA, cuz its not worth the risk aka money.
Barboza made 100.000$ vs Lee
CTE ftw.
Askren for 20 seconds took damage but outside of that his career has been smooth sailing.
Don't follow wrestling but always find this sort of discussion interesting. So no one in the UFC has ever won 4 (or even 3) national D1 titles before? Looks like Askren had 2. I believe Koscheck had only 1, surprisingly.
definitely pretty close lol
What weight class is he?
Wrestled at 197 this past year but could have easily made 184. He bumped up to give his teammate a better shot. He'd be a big MW imo. He's 6'2".
Only 4 people ever have won 4 D1 titles. None of them have fought MMA.
Jake Rosholt won 3 and had a few fights in the UFC. His brother Jared surprisingly had a better MMA career, but maybe that's because HW is so thin.
Mark Schultz won 3 titles and had one UFC fight.
Ed Ruth won 3 and fights in Bellator.
Stephen Abas won 3 and then an Olympic silver medal before turning to MMA. Went 3-0, then retired. Too bad.
Eh it's a toss up for accolades between Askren to Nickal, sure he was a 3 time champion and 1 time runner up and has 1 Hodge trophy but Askren is a 2 time champion with 2 runner ups and 2 Hodge Trophies. Also, Askren also didn't fail to defend a Big 10 championship ever, like Nickal did his redshirt sophomore year. I don't believe Askren red shirted either.http://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/26424694/more-college-wrestlers-fighting-on
Bo Nickal, a 3x D1 champion and 4x All-American will start training for MMA after 2020 olympics. He states it's nice knowing wrestlers always have that path after college. Ben Askren personally believes Bo IS NOT good enough @ freestyle to go through the olympics (folkstyle to freestyle is definitely a tough transition). But Bo would certainly be the best collegiate wrestler in the UFC by a decent margin, with accolades that usurp DC, Askren and Gillespie.
Bo's style would translate well considering he's elite at pummeling (good for cage pressing) , can defend every type of leg attack and is excellent with pins (generally good pinners do excellent mat work in the octagon i.e. Askren).
Another prospect is Logan Stieber who has shown interest, he would be by far the most decorated wrestler to enter the UFC considering he's a 4x D1 champ and a world gold medalist (on the same level as the olympics).
Would love to see Nickal vs Israel or Gastelum down the road if he competes at 185 (he probably could).
Should we include Karelin in this discussion with his 3 gold medals at the olympics and 1 silver medal?Only 4 people ever have won 4 D1 titles. None of them have fought MMA.
Jake Rosholt won 3 and had a few fights in the UFC. His brother Jared surprisingly had a better MMA career, but maybe that's because HW is so thin.
Mark Schultz won 3 titles and had one UFC fight.
Ed Ruth won 3 and fights in Bellator.
Stephen Abas won 3 and then an Olympic silver medal before turning to MMA. Went 3-0, then retired. Too bad.
Eh it's a toss up for accolades between Askren to Nickal, sure he was a 3 time champion and 1 time runner up and has 1 Hodge trophy but Askren is a 2 time champion with 2 runner ups and 2 Hodge Trophies. Also, Askren also didn't fail to defend a Big 10 championship ever, like Nickal did his redshirt sophomore year. I don't believe Askren red shirted either.
Askren never wrestled in the Big 10. Missouri is Big 12. BIG difference.
Jake Rosholt and Mark Schultz won 3 NCAA titles, Hendricks 2, Askren 2, Randleman 2.Don't follow wrestling but always find this sort of discussion interesting. So no one in the UFC has ever won 4 (or even 3) national D1 titles before? Looks like Askren had 2. I believe Koscheck had only 1, surprisingly.
Olympics are considered more prestigious because they happen once every four years, as opposed to world championships which happen every year skipping olympic years. Also Olympics have less weight classes so each medal is more competitive.Wrestling world championships is definitely not the same as winning the Olympics