Blackburn Crouch=dope

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  1. hell wall

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    Because kicking.
     
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    i think kicking might not be too much of a factor...if you and your foe are in orthodox stance his left leg is the one that will be tryin to kick the head..but most guy have weak lead leg head kick,please tell to me what you think
     
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    No. Because almost no one teach it anymore.
     
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    not bashin the style I think its awesome for boxing, but you gotta admit it would need some adjustments for mma/ muay thai

    Especially for head kicks, you need that rear hand a lil higher to block that rear roundhouse... Maybe double fore arm block for strong ones
     
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    The adjustment needed are pretty minimal. Headkick? Just train with people who like to headkick. Want to kick? Less knee bend to allow lighter movement on the feet. Leg kick? With weight on your backfoot you can use your lead leg to check more effectively. Takedown? Controlling the range + know the sprawl. With the headkick, you don't even need your hand higher as long as you are aware of the kicking range and being mindful about it. Like how the Thai do it, they mostly like to fade away from high kicks but not block it as it give them a really good opportunities to counter.

    Just look at Arni's MMA fight, or even my footage vs The kickboxing instructor. Granted we don't use PURE Blackburn Crouch (more like a refined version of old school boxing stance), but those our footages are example of how applied old school pricipals works in modern time in either MMA or Kickboxing scenario.
     
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    You could still defend the head kick reasonably well with that stance. The kick to your lead leg...I'm not so sure.
     
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    Blocking head kicks with your hands is not a fantastic idea.
     
  10. KounterPunch

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    You can't always duck / sway from one.
    At least pretend that your opponent has some skill.
     
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    Consistently swaying the high kick will eventually get you picked up by a spinning attack.

    You need to mix evasions, step throughs, and high checks with both gloves, using the double sided padding. The latter will be more difficult in mma.
     
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    How many people in MMA is good enough to whip up highkick constantly though?
     
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    Its not really that hard to do so, head kicks come up very slow compared to punches, and you can easily avoid them with good footwork too.
     
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    Who the hell designs their stance/guard on the assumption of poorly skilled opponents?

    You want to be prepared for the best.
     
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    While that's true, in the case of MMA i'd be more worry about takedown and leg kicks because those come more frequently. For the high kick in an MMA context I think just using footworks to step in/out of kicking range and fade is enough, as long as you are aware and train for it.
     
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    I don't disagree with you. I was only referring to constantly swaying.

    I'm not commenting on the crouch either. I don't know enough about it.
     
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    I love this. Tons of guys stand with lowered hands in MMA. Now people see a stance suggested that maximizes your ability to see shit coming at you, and suddenly it's flawed because the hands are lowered? What about the "you must fight with lowered hands to stop takedowns" argument?
     
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    But....but.....you need your hands up! You know, to see....shits coming?!
     
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    Like I said , at least pretend your prospective opponent has some skill.
     
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    Lol.
     

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