BJ's Clinic on Pulver

[bafflemeant]

Am I right that BJ's swim move from the back to the arm bar position and then to triangle was textbook Eddie Bravo technique? What do you guys make of that sequence? Would he have been better off trying to take Pulver's back there?

 

[blanko]

why is everything an "eddie bravo technique" all of a sudden?

 

[Slithers]

Don't you know? Anything that eddie bravo does, has done, or ever will do: automatically becomes an official Eddie Bravo technique!

 

[Kimuralex]

why is everything an "eddie bravo technique" all of a sudden?

yea exactly. when i just started i bought eddies book and i bought rodrigos..and i see all these halfguard sweeps(oldschool/plan b?) and im like damn this guys good, making up all these sweeps. Then i realized he just like renamed them, and that they existed already(rodrigo shows the same ones and i doubt he learned them from eddie). Not sayin anythin bad about eddie, just something ironic.

Also surprised i havent seen any "NATE DIAZ USING RUBBER GUARD" as he grabbed his foot a coupel times in guard in his last couple of fights.

 

[Fallen]

Am I right that BJ's swim move from the back to the arm bar position and then to triangle was textbook Eddie Bravo technique? What do you guys make of that sequence? Would he have been better off trying to take Pulver's back there?

Wrong, BJ Penn was using Brazilian Jiu Jitsu not "10th Planet" Jiu Jitsu...it was textbook BJJ yes, with a little Penn styling, but Bravo...no I think not.

 

[HEAVY GRAPPLER]

Am I right that BJ's swim move from the back to the arm bar position and then to triangle was textbook Eddie Bravo technique? What do you guys make of that sequence? Would he have been better off trying to take Pulver's back there?

I made a thread like this once and Montanha gently informed me of a little parable which went something like this:

Imagine you just bought a volkswagon. All of a sudden it seems you see them everywhere. But that doesn't mean everybody driving a volkswagon bought theirs from the same guy you did.

I was so excited about Eddie Bravo's techniques when I first got into his book, I thought every person who ever grabbed their foot while in guard was doing bong hits at 10th Planet.

I don't think even Bravo claims he invented all those techniques. But he does a great job explaining them and has put names to some things which were just considered unnamed transitions in the past.

 

[EmeklioCrocough]

I honestly think Bj Penn started toying with Pulver. He had him in the armbar, when Pulver sort of got out, he could have easily stuck with it and got it. I really think he let it go to change techniques to toy with him.

 

[irc]

I think the reason Penn didn't take the choke the first time he had Pulver's back was because he wanted to break Pulver's left arm, like he promised he would do.

 

[bafflemeant]

Somehow I knew that no matter how carefully I tried to phrase it I would get flamed. You people are so eager to dog someone. I deliberately phrased my suggestion that it was an eddie bravo technique as a QUESTION. That technique is in Mastering the Rubber Guard, but I wasn't sure if Eddie invented it or not. I wouldn't say it necessarily matters one way or the other, but it would be interesting to know the history of the move--have people been doing it a long time, or is it a relatively new trend?

 

[bafflemeant]

I honestly think Bj Penn started toying with Pulver. He had him in the armbar, when Pulver sort of got out, he could have easily stuck with it and got it. I really think he let it go to change techniques to toy with him.

That's how it looked to me as well.

 

[flashNsmash]

why is everything an "eddie bravo technique" all of a sudden?

good question, this irks me as well

 

[hayliks]

BJ wanted to punish Jens this fight. He could have finished it in the first round if he wanted, but he really just put Jens through a lot more punishment than he needed to before he finished it.

 

[blanko]

i am not sure.. I thought that bj just wanted to take the safe road and transition to a better postion.

 

[DaRuckus337]

Wait, going for an armbar from backmount and transitioning to a triangle after being swept are Eddie Bravo techniques? That was straight up everyman's jiu jitsu. Basic but smoothly executed techniques and transitions.

 

[LCDforMe]

BJ could have snapped the shit out of that arm..I also think he could have finished that triangle had he not wanted to fuck up Jens more. I truly believe BJ was just playing around.

 

[hayliks]

Wait, going for an armbar from backmount and transitioning to a triangle after being swept are Eddie Bravo techniques? That was straight up everyman's jiu jitsu. Basic but smoothly executed techniques and transitions.

Eddie Bravo invented the armbar

 

[blanko]

right after he invtented sliced bread

 

[DaRuckus337]

Eddie Bravo invented the armbar

Fuck. I'd better go out and buy all his books and dvds if I want to stay competitive. This 'armbar' technique sounds devastating.

 

[colinm]

i liked BJ's guard passing the most. the RNC finish with the trapped arm was textbook, too.

 

[Throatpoker]

BJJ = Bravo Jiujitsu