News BJJ exposed once again

What did he do know? Oh wait there is two J's not one in BJJ
 
As someone else said, without BJJ you don't get anywhere in MMA so it's not "exposed". Any single martial art isn't enough. Was wrestling "exposed" when Masvidal knocked out Askren?
 
TapMachine said:
Precisely because of that: BJJ prowess didn't grant the BJJ practitioner the ability needed to take the fight to the ground... and you need to take the fight to the ground to use BJJ. You can win UFC gold by being a primarily striking specialist. You can win UFC gold by being a primarily wrestling specialist. Where is the BJJ specialist who can win UFC gold?
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That’s a completely different discussion. “Exposed” used in this context, is stating that it’s a completely defective approach to winning MMA fights. it’s fundamental to have.
 
Danis_champ said:
Makhachev already raped another ADCC champion Ramos. Ground fighting with gnp is a whole different ball game

Dern is ADCC champion too.
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Ya but he said pure grappling, both those guys would beat machachev in grappling only.
 
HitMachine said:
It's sad to see someone like Kron dedicate so much time and energy into BJJ only to get exposed in MMA. He had no idea how to get the fight to the ground because he has no wrestling or judo skills.. He looked like a complete amateur. At his age I think it's too late for him to try and learn wrestling, he should consider going back to BJJ events where they have a gentlemen's agreement to start the match on the ground.

I think Kron would even struggle in a pure grappling match and would be exposed if he was ever to grapple someone like Makhachev.

It's fair to say that BJJ isn't as compatible as Wrestling or Sambo in relation to MMA.
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Pure grappling? Are you that dumb ? I'll wait to see makhachev win an adcc title.
 
Erocthadon said:
Did you expect anything else from a Gracie?
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Funny thing is that in my brief few years at a Royce school, my Judo and wrestling background was respected and valued as we started 85% of our rolls on the feet...
 
Darius0995 said:
That’s a completely different discussion. “Exposed” used in this context, is stating that it’s a completely defective approach to winning MMA fights. it’s fundamental to have.
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Wrong, it's not fundamental to have. What is actually fundamental is submission defense and you don't need to train BJJ to learn that. Do not equate submission grappling in its entirety with BJJ, it's disrespectful to other martial arts like Judo, Sambo or catch.
 
TapMachine said:
Wrong, it's not fundamental to have. What is actually fundamental is submission defense and you don't need to train BJJ to learn that. Do not equate submission grappling with BJJ, it's disrespectful to other martial arts like Judo, Sambo or catch.
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So, if Kron was successful in taking his opponent down using a separate martial art within his mixed martial art bout - his bbj specialities would prove completely redundant?

Okay.

You’re confusing your criticism of the individual’s lack of variety, with the art form’s effectiveness.
 
Airdack said:
If freestyle wrestling was easy it would be called Sambo.

There’s a reason you don’t see Sambo guys at the top of grappling promotions.
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Comrade there is no need when you paid more for keeping olympics strong with no travel. Make sense my friend?
 
Darius0995 said:
So, if Kron was successful in taking his opponent down using a separate martial art within his mixed martial art bout - his bbj specialities would prove completely redundant?

Okay.

You’re confusing your criticism of the individual’s lack of variety, with the art form.
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In order to use BJJ effectively, the BJJ practitioner needs to take the fight to he ground... except BJJ specialists do not practice taking the fight to the ground within their discipline. It is the fundamental flaw of BJJ and from this PoV BJJ was indeed exposed... for the 273625163th time.
 
johnkilo said:
BJJ is exposed even though every contemporary MMA fighter has to have it in their arsenal to be successful?

That's like saying Muay Thai is exposed if a striker got choked out. It's called MMA for a reason. Obviously no fighter with a single specialty is going to do well. This isn't 1995.
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Well said! I was thinking this exact thought while watching the fight. Kron is solely focused on BJJ with a little bit of boxing added in there. He’s too focused on carrying out the family name with BJJ and he lacks big time in other aspects because of it. Also, he exposed Cub for being on the ass end of his career. Cub was barely out striking Kron, and was way too afraid to get into a clinch with a guy who can’t wrestle.
 
Thrawn33 said:
Funny thing is that in my brief few years at a Royce school, my Judo and wrestling background was respected and valued as we started 85% of our rolls on the feet...
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I'm not shitting on any schools under the Gracie's umbrella. Not even really the Gracie's. The Gracie's themselves just don't want to seem to conform to anything but BJJ. I loved Ryan, though. He loved to scrap, because he was legit insane. I loved it.
 
BJJ was not exposed...a BJJ specialist with very little MMA experience was shown that he needs to round out his game in order to compete at the highest level of the sport.

We have know for many years that specialists don't tend to do very well until they add to their skill set...this is not a surprise.

Kron showed that he is very durable, has good cardio, and can push the pace...but clearly still has major gaps in his game that are going to be extremely difficult to address at 31, while competing at the highest level of MMA in the UFC.
 
HitMachine said:
He had no idea how to get the fight to the ground because he has no wrestling or judo skills..
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