BJ Penn Or Roy Jones Jr? Who is tarnishing their legacy the most?

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  1. D 1 Wrestler

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    Both guys should have retired years ago but continue to fight. Will BJ go the RJJ route and begin fighting literal no names after he gets thrashed by Lamas?
     
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    If Roy Jones Jr retired after the Ruiz fight.
    (when he became HW champ)

    He could really have been remembered has the greteast of all time.
     
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    Roy wins fights occasionally, so he's not tarnishing his as much.
     
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    BJ is already 16-10 bro.

    What legacy.
     
  5. D 1 Wrestler

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    Do you think BJ would be looked at differently if he were fighting no name guys in Bellator but winning?
     
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    Yes, I do. That's what he should be doing. No one would blame him for it, either. Look at the Alexander guy from Bellator who had the long win streak. It was almost entirely made up of no names, but he had hype behind him because of the amount of people.
     
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  7. D 1 Wrestler

    D 1 Wrestler Look up to me

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    he fought lyoto machida at open weight ffs, and his resume is pretty insane
     
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    Roy isn't tarnishing his legacy because Boxing fans are smart enough to know that when a fighter loses well past their prime it doesn't reflect on how good they were during their prime. A lot of MMA fans are too new to combat sports to realize this so BJ is tarnishing his legacy more.
     
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    More like if BJ fought in toughman competition...

    Roy is fighting the worst kind of cans lately.

    Maccarineli was done and still ko'd him badly
     
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    yes but many boxing fans are laughing at his opponents and the fact he is losing to some of them. He is also already noticeably punch drunk yet continues to fight. I saw the does BJ want to die thread which inspired me to make this because RJJ seems to be much closer to severe brain damage than BJ
     
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    BJ Penn is still the greatest LW of all time

    ain't no diminishing that
     
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    Love BJ and I think he's a legend but after the Nick/Rory/Frankie fights his legacy was already severly tarnished.

    BJ and Nate Diaz might be the 2 most talented fighters with the worst records.
     
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    As much as I love RJJ, no fucking way.
     
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    Jones. He was one of the best ever for a long stretch. He's a shell of that now.
     
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    was 48-1 (only loss by DQ)
    champ at 160.168.175 +Heavyweight?

    would be in the discussion for sure.

    (agree, he ducked a few fights/fighter when he was champ)
     
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    BJ is tarnishing his more. RJJ accomplished a lot more, so it's easy to see that he just stayed around too long.

    BJ's legend has always been built around a couple of huge accomplishment, but finished off by the impressive imaginations of his huggers. Getting beaten soundly by fighters that aren't that much younger is not good for his image.
     
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    I'll reserve judgment till his next fight.

    Although the last one against frankie... *shudder*
     
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    People love to shit on guys for continuing to do what they love, like BJ, or they love to shit on guys like GSP for leaving the game early. No matter what you do in this sport people will find a way to shit on you.
     
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    "Roy Jones Jr respects the hands of BJ's legacy, Joe"

    - Kenny Florian
     
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