Bisping vs Henderson II - Rewatched

[The Natural Born Runner]

So first time around I scored it 49-47 to Michael Bisping.

I had it Round 1 Hendo, Round 2 a Draw, Rounds 3-5 Bisping.

Upon a rewatch, I only made 1 change to my scoring and that is Round 2 to Bisping.

I think it was very commendable what Henderson did in that fight and I can also understand some of the criticism of Michael's performance as a champion. I think a lot of his apprehension was a psychological thing to do with his history with Henderson and a fear of being KO'd again.

I think Round 1 is a 10-9 more than ever after a second watch, and that's because the flurry was nowhere near as bad as I thought. Round was Bisping's barely, until that moment, that moment if it had been prolonged would have led to a 10-8, but it was only a 15-20 second period - 10-9 Henderson for me.

I think Round 2 could be scored a draw, but it's impossible for that to be scored a Henderson round unless we treat the scoring like a Boxing model when it comes to knockdowns. Bisping won 4+ minutes of the round and even had Hendo in a little trouble. 10-9 Bisping for me.

Round 3 obviously Bisping. 10-9 Bisping

Round 4, closer than 3 but more output from Michael. 10-9 Bisping

Round 5 Henderson was much more aggressive, but really didn't land anything. Mike's shoulders never even touched the ground in the takedown exchange and Michael got back up pretty much immediately. A little higher work-rate and some flashier strikes. 10-9 Bisping.

49-46 is my revised score. Still wouldn't be angry with 49-47 with Round 2 as a draw.

Anyone else rewatched it?

 

[Platinum]

Can't be bothered to rewatch because in the end i don't give a shit.

 

[The Natural Born Runner]

Can't be bothered to rewatch because in the end i don't give a shit.

Didn't have a dog in the race?

 

[Platinum]

Didn't have a dog in the race?

Not this time

 

[GoldenAzazel]

I was there and I refused to score it because I got so emotional during it. I thought every big shot Bisping landed was the best thing ever and every shot Hendo landed was also the best thing ever. As I was walking out the arena I agreed with the decision but I definitely needed to rewatch it.

After going home and rewatching it the next day I scored it:

10-9 Hendo (I wouldn't argue with a 10-8 I guess)
10-10
10-9 Bisping
10-9 Bisping
10-9 Bisping.

 

[EndlessCritic]

Should have been scored a draw, and Bisping remained champion.

 

[The Natural Born Runner]

Not this time

I started off cheering both guys, didn't know what story I wanted more.

Bisping overcoming his nemesis and defending the title in Manchester, or the fairytale ending for Hendo.

After that H-Bomb landed, I was all Bisping - I love an underdog.

I see no way Henderson won that fight, he just didn't throw enough. Good showing for a weather-beaten 46 year old legend of the game though.

 

[GoldenAzazel]

Should have been scored a draw, and Bisping remained champion.

What scorecard would you have to make it a draw?

 

[Bokelj]

Bisping won Hendo retired. That is all.
Good fight

 

[The Natural Born Runner]

I was there and I refused to score it because I got so emotional during it. I thought every big shot Bisping landed was the best thing ever and every shot Hendo landed was also the best thing ever. As I was walking out the arena I agreed with the decision but I definitely needed to rewatch it.

After going home and rewatching it the next day I scored it:

10-9 Hendo (I wouldn't argue with a 10-8 I guess)
10-10
10-9 Bisping
10-9 Bisping
10-9 Bisping.

I think one punch cannot win you a round, and he didn't really do anything with it at all, therefore Round 2 is still a Bisping round, as much as I know many will disagree.

I also made my point about Round 1's score - cannot see 10-8.

Great fight though, had my chance to go and turned it down. A little upset in retrospect.

 

[The Natural Born Runner]

Should have been scored a draw, and Bisping remained champion.

10-8 in Round 1, 10-9 Henderson and then 10-9 for Bisping the rest of the way?

 

[myjohnson9]

Has there ever been a 10-10 round in ufc history? i'm not even sure that's allowed in the judging criteria

 

[wandshocop]

Bisping won clearly, people just wanted the story book ending for Dan

 

[GoldenAzazel]

I think one punch cannot win you a round, and he didn't really do anything with it at all, therefore Round 2 is still a Bisping round, as much as I know many will disagree.

I also made my point about Round 1's score - cannot see 10-8.

Great fight though, had my chance to go and turned it down. A little upset in retrospect.

I agree that one punch can't win you the round but it was a very powerful punch and a knockdown is a knockdown. To me I think that makes it a draw. I wouldn't be mad if the judges scored it either way to be honest though.

I think round 1 depends on what your opinion of a 10-8 is. Bisping wasn't as strong in round 1 as he was in round 2 and was a lot closer to being finished. If I remember rightly it wasn't as close to the end of the round either.

 

[Platinum]

I started off cheering both guys, didn't know what story I wanted more.

Bisping overcoming his nemesis and defending the title in Manchester, or the fairytale ending for Hendo.

After that H-Bomb landed, I was all Bisping - I love an underdog.

I see no way Henderson won that fight, he just didn't throw enough. Good showing for a weather-beaten 46 year old legend of the game though.

Hendo fought with pride and heart. Win or lose it was still a good way to hang up the gloves.

I'm not the biggest fan of Hendo because every time he knocks a guy out he tries to nearly kill them with follow-up strikes but i wasn't rooting for either man.

Before it happened i thought that the fight was a horrible idea, now as it's finally done i'm relieved to see Bisping face the top 4 next.

 

[a guy]

Probably the most reasonable account of the fight I've seen. I scored it the same way. Bisping almost lost the fight because of two huge lapses in judgement (punching downwards at Hendo is suicidal), but overall he put on a disciplined and measured technical performance. He kept the pressure on, worked his feints, countered the counters, worked his left kick to stand Hendo up and outpaced him. He definitely could have done some things better--the lack of right kicks and body shots didn't help him--but he did a generally solid job with the tools he has against a very tough matchup for him, both mentally and physically.

 

[GoldenAzazel]

Has there ever been a 10-10 round in ufc history? i'm not even sure that's allowed in the judging criteria

One judge gave round 5 in Hendricks v Lawler 1 a 10-10.

 

[myjohnson9]

One judge gave round 5 in Hendricks v Lawler 1 a 10-10.

 

[The Natural Born Runner]

Has there ever been a 10-10 round in ufc history? i'm not even sure that's allowed in the judging criteria

Frustratingly, they really stay away from them.

They are in the criteria and the rulebook, but judges themselves on here have advised me that they are told by commissions to stay away from 10-10's.

 

[The Natural Born Runner]

One judge gave round 5 in Hendricks v Lawler 1 a 10-10.

Which is bloody worrying, that was a clear Robbie round.