Billionaire Minnesota Governor Raises Taxes, Min. Wage, Job Growth Explodes

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Tell me again how raising taxes on the wealthy kills the economy...

During his first four years in office, Gov. Dayton raised the state income tax from 7.85 to 9.85 percent on individuals earning over $150,000, and on couples earning over $250,000 when filing jointly — a tax increase of $2.1 billion. He’s also agreed to raise Minnesota’s minimum wage to $9.50 an hour by 2018.

Between 2011 and 2015, Gov. Dayton added 172,000 new jobs to Minnesota’s economy — that’s 165,800 more jobs in Dayton’s first term than Pawlenty [an anti-tax Republican] added in both of his terms combined. Even though Minnesota’s top income tax rate is the fourth highest in the country, it has the fifth lowest unemployment rate in the country at 3.6 percent.

By late 2013, Minnesota’s private sector job growth exceeded pre-recession levels, and the state’s economy was the fifth fastest-growing in the United States. Forbes even ranked Minnesota the ninth best state for business (Scott Walker’s “Open For Business” Wisconsin came in at a distant #32 on the same list).

As of January 2015, Minnesota has a $1 billion budget surplus, and Gov. Dayton has pledged to reinvest more than one third of that money into public schools. And according to Gallup, Minnesota’s economic confidence is higher than any other state.
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So he raised local taxes to a rate still under 10%, and has a minimum wage hike that hasn't even gone into effect yet? Sorry, how are we claiming that added jobs? I've heard the argument that raising taxes doesn't necessarily add jobs and basically "we should take their money because fuck them", but this might be the first time I've heard someone claim that raising taxes actually adds private sector jobs. Would love to know how that works.
 
So he raised local taxes to a rate still under 10%, and has a minimum wage hike that hasn't even gone into effect yet? Sorry, how are we claiming that added jobs? I've heard the argument that raising taxes doesn't necessarily add jobs and basically "we should take their money because fuck them", but this might be the first time I've heard someone claim that raising taxes actually adds private sector jobs. Would love to know how that works.

Uh...... Shut up Fascist...
 
So he raised local taxes to a rate still under 10%, and has a minimum wage hike that hasn't even gone into effect yet? Sorry, how are we claiming that added jobs? I've heard the argument that raising taxes doesn't necessarily add jobs and basically "we should take their money because fuck them", but this might be the first time I've heard someone claim that raising taxes actually adds private sector jobs. Would love to know how that works.
When the chicken bones roll juuuuuuust right, it works.
 
So he raised local taxes to a rate still under 10%...
Which makes it the 4th highest level in the country. Your name truly does suit you.

So he raised local taxes to a rate still under 10%, and has a minimum wage hike that hasn't even gone into effect yet? Sorry, how are we claiming that added jobs? I've heard the argument that raising taxes doesn't necessarily add jobs and basically "we should take their money because fuck them", but this might be the first time I've heard someone claim that raising taxes actually adds private sector jobs. Would love to know how that works.

Never said raising taxes on the rich creates jobs alone, the point is that it doesn't kill jobs as Conservatives often claim.

Once again in this thread, I've posted facts and figures, only to have cuckservatards chicken peck with no actual counter evidence.
 
Which makes it the 4th highest level in the country. Your name truly does suit you.
lol, This rate is still 1/4 of the federal tax rate. Fucking taxes, how do they work?
 
So he raised local taxes to a rate still under 10%, and has a minimum wage hike that hasn't even gone into effect yet? Sorry, how are we claiming that added jobs? I've heard the argument that raising taxes doesn't necessarily add jobs and basically "we should take their money because fuck them", but this might be the first time I've heard someone claim that raising taxes actually adds private sector jobs. Would love to know how that works.
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lol, This rate is still 1/4 of the federal tax rate. Fucking taxes, how do they work?

You realize state and federal taxes are separate right?

That state tax rate is more than double what the highest earners here get taxed.
 
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Do you? You do realize that that state income tax is on top of the federal income tax, right?
Which makes this 2% state tax increase barely noticeable when their overall tax burden is over half after property and sales tax.
 
So he raised local taxes to a rate still under 10%, and has a minimum wage hike that hasn't even gone into effect yet? Sorry, how are we claiming that added jobs? I've heard the argument that raising taxes doesn't necessarily add jobs and basically "we should take their money because fuck them", but this might be the first time I've heard someone claim that raising taxes actually adds private sector jobs. Would love to know how that works.

Well, I will try to explain it to you as simply as I can.

Additional taxes, when used effectively, will create a more robust state infrastructure. Roads, bridges, transport, mass transit, etc. It will also enable the state to invest more in primary and secondary education. They will also be able to invest in venues that provide entertainment to their masses. Which is how a small city and state in terms of population ends up with a PRO NFL, NBA, MLB, AND NHL team, one of only 13 cities in the country that can make such a claim.

All these things factor in to an overall quality of life. Which is a key metric for businesses when they make a decision on where to locate themselves. You will notice that many places in the US with high taxes also have very solid jobs growth.
 
Which makes this 2% state tax increase barely noticeable when their overall tax burden is over half after property and sales tax.

Which still does not negate the fact that it was an increase, and has not effected job growth in a negative way.
 
Not fair to compare to a previous administration that left office at the end of the financial crisis. Both sides do that a lot. It's an easy trick to make the more recent administration look like an economic success.
 
Which makes this 2% state tax increase barely noticeable when their overall tax burden is over half after property and sales tax.
Great. So why do governors wring their hands about raising taxes and win elections by promising to cut them? Because of this "barely noticeable" tax increase, Minnesota went from a $6.7 billion dollar deficit to a $1 billion dollars surplus.

That's "barely noticeable" as well, I suppose.

Not fair to compare to a previous administration that left office at the end of the financial crisis. Both sides do that a lot. It's an easy trick to make the more recent administration look like an economic success.
But Minnesota's recovery has gone much better than the national average. So it is fair to conclude that more liberal economic policies have NOT hurt the state's recovery, which is the constant mantra of conservatives.
 
Well, I will try to explain it to you as simply as I can.

Additional taxes, when used effectively, will create a more robust state infrastructure. Roads, bridges, transport, mass transit, etc. It will also enable the state to invest more in primary and secondary education. They will also be able to invest in venues that provide entertainment to their masses. Which is how a small city and state in terms of population ends up with a PRO NFL, NBA, MLB, AND NHL team, one of only 13 cities in the country that can make such a claim.

All these things factor in to an overall quality of life. Which is a key metric for businesses when they make a decision on where to locate themselves. You will notice that many places in the US with high taxes also have very solid jobs growth.
Yet you decided to live in Florida with no state tax.

So these sports teams were all started in the last few years since the 2% increase on state tax? State and local taxes, or in your case, tolls and sales tax and lottery, go towards paying for those things, and state and local gov't weren't the ones yanking 40% of your money in the first place. I don't have a problem with local taxes when federal was already taking 4-5 times that amount.
 
Well, I will try to explain it to you as simply as I can.

Additional taxes, when used effectively, will create a more robust state infrastructure. Roads, bridges, transport, mass transit, etc. It will also enable the state to invest more in primary and secondary education. They will also be able to invest in venues that provide entertainment to their masses. Which is how a small city and state in terms of population ends up with a PRO NFL, NBA, MLB, AND NHL team, one of only 13 cities in the country that can make such a claim.

All these things factor in to an overall quality of life. Which is a key metric for businesses when they make a decision on where to locate themselves. You will notice that many places in the US with high taxes also have very solid jobs growth.
Exactly. Not to mention, sufficient revenue can actually create balanced budgets, which lead to an economically stable and predictable environment, which businesses apparently like (better then being in a state where they are constantly in the red, juggling policies and trying to figure out how where to make cuts to extinguish the next economic fire).
 
Yet you decided to live in Florida with no state tax.

So these sports teams were all started in the last few years since the 2% increase on state tax? State and local taxes, or in your case, tolls and sales tax and lottery, go towards paying for those things, and state and local gov't weren't the ones yanking 40% of your money in the first place. I don't have a problem with local taxes when federal was already taking 4-5 times that amount.

The state income tax has nothing to do with my decision to live here. I would pay more if they charged more because I hate driving over fucking potholes.

I will admit to enjoying the state lottery, or 'idiot tax' as i refer to it taking in so much money for the state. Fortunately for me though I do not pay that tax.

Even prior to these changes Minnesota had well above average state sales tax and state income tax. So they have been able to invest in these kind of things for a while. Now they can do even more.

The larger point that continues to elude you is that the direct link the right likes to make between taxes and negative job growth is a myth. The greatest period of economic expansion in US history had upper income tax brackets between 77%-91%. And between the years of 1936-1981 there was never a top income tax bracket below 70%.
 
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Which still does not negate the fact that it was an increase, and has not effected job growth in a negative way.
Why would it? They weren't the ones taking 39%% in the first place. 2% up or down is not significant when your total taxes are half your money.
 
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