Opinion Bill Maher please shut up

[Jack V Savage]

No, it really isn't in 2019. As per her comments on the Iran deal those came in 2019 like her sudden "awakening" regarding LGBT rights (akin to Clinton).

Your case for her being unusually moderate depends on assuming that other people's stated positions are not their true positions in some cases and on her stated position not being her true position in some cases. Obviously, if you're willing to make stuff up, you can argue that anyone is moderate or extreme.

Nope. It's absurd to opine that Warren is closer to the center than Gabbard.

That's not what I opined. Warren is probably to the left of Gabbard, but you can't *reasonably* argue that one of them is a moderate and the other is extreme. Especially if you don't want to also claim that all Republicans in office are extreme (because Warren and Gabbard are far closer to each other than either is to any Republican Senator, Representative, or recent presidential candidate).

I'll take her actual record for the True Daily Double, Alex. We've been over this before with Harris. We can run all those same routes with Warren, if you like, because she is substantially left of Harris:
https://forums.sherdog.com/posts/148549205/

Surprised you want to bring that one up, given how you flopped there. Anyway, are you saying that Harris is another candidate you'd acknowledge to be moderate?

 

[xcvbn]

Progressives aren’t going to be compatible with the DNC for much longer. Just split now and become the socialist party you want to be.

Down.

But can y'all become the nationalist party you want to be? Then we merge and become the National Socialist party. Nothing could stop us.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

[Spoler]Bill Maher the man who help sell Hillary Clinton now going after progressive dems. He's attacking Bernie Sanders, Tulsi Gibbard, heck even Warren and he's hurting the front runners in the hopes of boosting Biden and Harris.

It gets better he claims progressive candidates will chase younger voters away.[/spoiler] He said you don't need to redo healthcare just push to legalize marijuana for the youth vote. Like they are one issue voters that fair wages affordable healthcare an jobs will not win the youth vote.

I'm typing this as he blows out his nonsense on MSNBC. I may have some parts wrong but he is protecting the status quo an helping Trump get reelected.

No link to post he's now comparing Williamson to the progressive front runners. He is protecting his rich neoliberal executives at his network. Piece of crap.

If the younger voters are interested in higher wages and jobs shouldnt they favor Trump?

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

I don't know why anyone thinks Biden can't handle debates. He's pretty much absorbed/deflected all attacks on him, and stays cool under pressure. I haven't really seen a moment of real weakness from him.

Harris is way too emotional though. Can dish it out, but can't take it at all. I've never seen a candidate so visibly flustered after Tulsi eviscerated her. Even Jeb took his medicine better than her.

yea, Biden was great against Palin, and held his own very well in the 2008 dem debates

 

[xcvbn]

• +11.5 = Biden
• +5.2 = Warren
• +7.0 = Sanders
• +4.2 = Harris
• +2.0 = Buttgieg

Lmao@that deceptive order

MSNBC is hiring

 

[Jack V Savage]

yea, Biden was great against Palin, and held his own very well in the 2008 dem debates

He destroyed Ryan, too, which I think surprised a lot of people. He's looked bad so far this year, but the competition is much, much tougher. I think people are underestimating that. You have two Rhodes Scholars, a Harvard professor (who was also a debate champion in HS), a big-time prosecutor, a Harvard law grad, etc. Of course Biden's going to look a little dim in that crowd. Put him next to Trump, and he's going to look a lot better.

 

[TidWell]

Bill Maher the man who help sell Hillary Clinton now going after progressive dems. He's attacking Bernie Sanders, Tulsi Gibbard, heck even Warren and he's hurting the front runners in the hopes of boosting Biden and Harris.

It gets better he claims progressive candidates will chase younger voters away. He said you don't need to redo healthcare just push to legalize marijuana for the youth vote. Like they are one issue voters that fair wages affordable healthcare an jobs will not win the youth vote.

I'm typing this as he blows out his nonsense on MSNBC. I may have some parts wrong but he is protecting the status quo an helping Trump get reelected.

No link to post he's now comparing Williamson to the progressive front runners. He is protecting his rich neoliberal executives at his network. Piece of crap.

Maher is slick with it, he secretly conservative and voted for Trump.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

I don't know why anyone thinks Biden can't handle debates. He's pretty much absorbed/deflected all attacks on him, and stays cool under pressure. I haven't really seen a moment of real weakness from him.

Harris is way too emotional though. Can dish it out, but can't take it at all. I've never seen a candidate so visibly flustered after Tulsi eviscerated her. Even Jeb took his medicine better than her.

Biden can't string together as sound bite.

 

[kpt018]

If the younger voters are interested in higher wages and jobs shouldnt they favor Trump?

Why would they? They could fall for the same mistake so many others make in attributing a strong economy to the work of the president but Trump hasn’t passed one thing that would improve jobs and wages on a material level. Sure, tax cuts gave the economy a sugar rush but the studies I read illustrate they didn’t do much and it was short term. Tariffs hurt the economy. So what exact is trump doing for young people?

 

[Fawlty]

He destroyed Ryan, too, which I think surprised a lot of people. He's looked bad so far this year, but the competition is much, much tougher. I think people are underestimating that. You have two Rhodes Scholars, a Harvard professor (who was also a debate champion in HS), a big-time prosecutor, a Harvard law grad, etc. Of course Biden's going to look a little dim in that crowd. Put him next to Trump, and he's going to look a lot better.

Yep, murderer's row. Even Julián "Who?" Castro is a fucking beast. Booker is about as good on stage as any solid candidate ever, and he's polling in the Castro district.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

Think for VP they'll get a southern Democrat or one from the important swing states of Ohio or Pennsylvania.

Probably, and it makes sense to keep one in the Senate to have their administration's back.

 

[HunterSdVa29]

Remember when he supported Ron Paul for election?

and then 180'd and gave 1M to Obama's reelection campaign?

Dude's a clown

 

[Anung Un Rama]

Remember when he supported Ron Paul for election?

and then 180'd and gave 1M to Obama's reelection campaign?

Dude's a clown

I don't think he ever supported Ron Paul for election, but he did agree with his FP and his position on the War on Drugs.

 

[HunterSdVa29]

I don't think he ever supported Ron Paul for election, but he did agree with his FP and his position on the War on Drugs.

well he called him his Hero, and on CNN said he should be the clear GOP candidate and he supported him

NO he didn't give him money though

 

[kpt018]

Yep, murderer's row. Even Julián "Who?" Castro is a fucking beast. Booker is about as good on stage as any solid candidate ever, and he's polling in the Castro district.

You guys are both spot on but I wonder if voters give a shit. Sure, smart educated folks like policy wonks and a really sharp presentation but I think most people just want someone they “like”. Joe is just that likable safe guy.

I understand that the point is he looks bad against really good competition but I’m not convinced it matters.

 

[Madmick]

Lmao@that deceptive order

MSNBC is hiring

I ordered them according to their current standings in the plural Democratic poll.

 

[Fawlty]

You guys are both spot on but I wonder if voters give a shit. Sure, smart educated folks like policy wonks and a really sharp presentation but I think most people just want someone they “like”. Joe is just that likable safe guy.

I understand that the point is he looks bad against really good competition but I’m not convinced it matters.

Yeah I tend to agree that it doesn't matter, to a point. I don't think Biden has crossed any "unelectable" lines due to his old man memory glitches.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Why would they? They could fall for the same mistake so many others make in attributing a strong economy to the work of the president but Trump hasn’t passed one thing that would improve jobs and wages on a material level. Sure, tax cuts gave the economy a sugar rush but the studies I read illustrate they didn’t do much and it was short term. Tariffs hurt the economy. So what exact is trump doing for young people?

Yeah, nothing at all.

And putting that aside, what he's been trying to do to boost growth--pressure the Fed to cut interest rates inappropriately and boost deficits when the economy is already strong--is a textbook illustration of the dangers of populism. Trying to max out demand all the time with no regard to the future. And while I think there was still a case for higher deficits and at least holding rates flat, if the higher deficits were driven by progressive tax changes and increased infrastructure spending, we'd be setting the path for future growth and boosting demand even more (which would actually put pressure on the Fed to raise rates).

 

[Jack V Savage]

You guys are both spot on but I wonder if voters give a shit. Sure, smart educated folks like policy wonks and a really sharp presentation but I think most people just want someone they “like”. Joe is just that likable safe guy.

I understand that the point is he looks bad against really good competition but I’m not convinced it matters.

Yeah, debates aren't going to affect elections much. Just saying that it doesn't look like something that will be a problem for him in the general, if he gets there. I do think that two geezers who aren't super sharp (one is considerably less than "not super sharp," of course) kind of looks bad for the country. But if young people don't vote more, that's what they get.

 

[IGIT]

I don't think he ever supported Ron Paul for election, but he did agree with his FP and his position on the War on Drugs.

ahoy Anung Un Rama,

sure sounds like he did;



its about 2/3 through the video. i love how Dr. Paul stood in the pocket and traded with the Neocons back then...seems like a long time ago.

- IGIT