Biggest robbery in UFC history? Shogun had 80 str to Machidas 35 yet lost by UD

[koquerelle]

1. A ton of people called it a robbery. It was one of the worst, longest protracted fights on this site in my time here.

2. It wasn't corruption, it was shitty judging. Shitty judges were very common back then.

Agree with everything except the last 2 words. Shitty judges will always be part of the sport.

 

[MMAfanboy4life]

I need to rewatch the fight, but I remember Machida doing a great job of countering Shogun’s low kicks and body kicks with punches up top. Ultimately though, I remember feeling like that fight could have gone either way.

It certainly didn’t look like a 80 strikes to 35 difference. Also, that fight was funny in a sense that folks were recommending watching it muted, because of how incredibly biased Joe supposedly sounded.

 

[CrimsonFan]

Robbie got his ass kicked more in round 3 then Condit got his ass kicked in round 5.

Lol no he did not. You really need to rewatch that 5th round. Could have been stopped multiple times

 

[Blayt7hh]

Agree with everything except the last 2 words. Shitty judges will always be part of the sport.

I feel like it’s a lot better today overall than it was 10 years ago though

 

[Thesnake101]

Doesn't he have a point? Why should someone be awarded a win for spamming low kicks for 5 rounds? Machida landed more shots the head

Because lowkicks also cause damage, not to mention that there's nothing stating that the judging criteria has a bias for a certain type of strike. Significant strikes are comprised of head, body and leg strikes.

What's your position here? Do you only make passive-aggressive assertions?

 

[Gandzooka]

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

Bad decisions happen all the time. Stats don't tell the whole story tho.

 

[blaseblah]

This. This is what this fight came down to. The judges weighing Machida's head punches heavier then Shogun'sbody/leg kicks.

Except Shogun landed more head strikes

 

[Blayt7hh]

I need to rewatch the fight, but I remember Machida doing a great job of countering Shogun’s low kicks and body kicks with punches up top. Ultimately though, I remember feeling like that fight could have gone either way.

It certainly didn’t look like a 80 strikes to 35 difference. Also, that fight was funny in a sense that folks were recommending watching it muted, because of how incredibly biased Joe supposedly sounded.

Basically they landed the same number of punches. The real difference was how many leg kicks were landed. The judges clearly gave him no credit for the leg kicks, which was stupid because they had obviously taken a toll

 

[spacetime]

It certainly didn’t look like a 80 strikes to 35 difference.

It was if you count his low kick spamming as significant.

 

[TheJohnnyWalkerEra]

Yeah, so why do people have such a fucking hard-on on low kicks? Head shots should be worth more IMO.

Low kicks are great when they are damaging but Shogun isn't exactly Pedro Rizzo or Jose Aldo

Rogaine was acting like the low kicks were slowing down Machida but he just looked like he was gassing

 

[Blayt7hh]

That’s among the worst of all time for sure. No one agreed with that decision it was pretty mind blowing

 

[Joefear804]

GSP over Johny Hendricks.

 

[speak]

I thought BJ vs Edgar 1 was pretty bad. I thought BJ clearly won 4-1 but the judges were shocked that Frankie landed a couple takedowns and BJ seemed to gas in the 5th.

Nothing in MMA was as bad as Pacquiao/Bradley 1.....

 

[Blayt7hh]

Yeah, so why do people have such a fucking hard-on on low kicks? Head shots should be worth more IMO.

So wait you started this thread asking why more people weren’t outraged by the “corruption” but you also agree with the judges based on every Machida fans argument? Wtf?

 

[spacetime]

Rogaine was acting like the low kicks were slowing down Machida but he just looked like he was gassing

Rogan has a fucking hard-on on low kicks just because his pussy ass legs can't take them. He ALWAYS hyperboles whenever people lands low kicks.

 

[spacetime]

So wait you started this thread asking why more people weren’t outraged by the “corruption” but you also agree with the judges based on every Machida fans argument? Wtf?

I'm torn

 

[grimballer]

Certainly up there. At least justice was served in the end.

I think Machida got absolutely robbed against Phil Davis though, so what goes around comes around.

I still think the worst robbery ever is probably Diego Sanchez Vs Ross Pearson though.

At least in that fight you could argue Phil won due to td

the real robbery was vs rampage. Don’t see how he got 2 rounds vs machida

 

[spacetime]

the real robbery was vs rampage. Don’t see how he got 2 rounds vs machida

Haha, Rampage even said in the cage that Machida kicked his ass and that the decision was totally wrong

 

[Satan's Daddy.]

You could say Francis got robbed against Lewis.