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Elections Biggest lesson for Democrats heading into 2021: Pelosi and Schumer must go

Discussion in 'The War Room' started by Trotsky, Nov 5, 2020.

  1. Trotsky Banned Banned

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    ...and be replaced by progressives with a bold and class-infused platform.

    Running against an historically unpopular president and the single most openly corrupt and unprincipled major party in modern history, congressional Democrats underperformed in every Senate race. In losses in Maine, Iowa, South Carolina, North Carolina, and Georgia, Democrats underperformed polls by an average of 5 points.

    No More Chuck and Nancy
    The Democrats might escape with a presidential win, but one thing is clear: congressional leadership needs to go.

    The votes are still being counted and we’re still trying to figure out what exactly happened, but one thing so far is undeniable: Election Night was a colossal failure for Senate and House Democrats.

    In the Senate, Democratic candidates blew prime pickup opportunities in Iowa, Maine, and North Carolina, and lit hundreds of millions of dollars on fire to lose by double digits in Kentucky and South Carolina while underfunding candidates such as Raphael Warnock, the Atlanta pastor who now appears to be the Democrats’ best hope for salvaging a 50-50 majority should Joe Biden win the presidency.



    In the House, an expected increase in the Democrats’ margins from 2018 rapidly went south as the night wore on, and the Democrats could actually lose five to ten seats by the time the cycle is over. Conservative incumbents lost, progressive challengers lost—it was an all-around disaster, and now the House has a much thinner majority that’s in extreme jeopardy in 2022, considering the wave of gerrymandering that’s about to be enacted in swing states all over the country because downballot Democrats also failed miserably.



    There’s a lot of blame to go around for all of this, but two of the main problems are clear: Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi and the entire Democratic Senate and House leadership.

    Schumer has been integral to Democratic recruitment efforts in the past two cycles, and each time they’ve come up dramatically short. That might have been excusable in 2018, when the map was extremely favorable for Republicans, but this year it was not—in addition to Colorado and Arizona, the Democrats should have won North Carolina, Iowa, and at the very least Maine. Surprise: they did not win any of those last three.

    The biggest miss might have been in North Carolina. There, Democrat Cal Cunningham—a horny ding-dong with no charisma to speak of, who was recruited by the DSCC for the second time in ten years owing to his sterling track record of one term spent as a state senator in the year 2001—enjoyed a 4 percent cushion from third-party conservative candidates against incumbent Sen. Thom Tillis, but ran way behind Biden and will likely manage to lose by tens of thousands of votes.

    In the House, the New York Times currently has Democrats losing all of the lean Republican districts, 24 of the 27 toss-up districts, and having lost three of the seats that were seen as leaning towards the Democrats.

    What this means is simple. Schumer and Pelosi have got to go—from leadership, from their seats in Congress, from politics altogether. Catherine Cortez-Masto and Cheri Bustos, the heads of the Democratic campaign committees, have also got to go. They again bet the entire house on Sane Republicans giving them a smooth path to power and they again failed, even with 230,000-plus people dead and an economy in the tank. This is a fuck-up far beyond Mitch McConnell’s wildest dreams, and this is how it works when you don’t follow through on the job people sent you to D.C. to do—you lose that job.

    They should be replaced with someone who actually understands that class is the key to why this keeps happening, why their relationship with suburbanites is at best tenuous and why Trump’s increasing margins with Latinx voters in South Texas of all places is an existential crisis. Bernie Sanders is never going to win that leadership election, but Sherrod Brown, Tammy Baldwin, Jeff Merkely—any of them could do this job way better than the current Senate leadership.

    As for the House, moderate Democrats are already floating Rep. Hakeem Jeffries, who hates the left way more on a visceral level than Pelosi, as an alternative should she step down. (Pelosi needs two-thirds of the caucus’s support, after a deal she made to become speaker for a second time in 2018.) House progressives need to find their own candidate to rally behind and fast. They’re already starting to get the blame for this shit, with anonymous centrist Democrats grumbling to whoever will pick up the phone at Politico that the notion that Democrats were “socialists” is what killed them despite the fact that Joe Biden devoted a large chunk of his primary campaign and a decent portion of his general bashing socialism. The party can do no wrong; it can only be done wrong.

    The Democratic Party approaches elections as a set of opportunities for consulting contracts, and while this year won’t be the final nail in the coffin, Tuesday’s results portend deeply worrying trends for anyone who doesn’t want this country to be ruled by a coalition of fascists and austerity hawks. And in order for things to improve, the Democrats have got to find new leadership, from people who haven’t been groomed for leadership by the very same people who are failing us right now.

    https://discourseblog.com/chuck-schumer-nancy-pelosi-2020-resign
     
  2. Bob Gray Deadlights Belt Platinum Member

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  3. andnowweknow I heard Trump lost

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    Pelosi's old cans keep her in power. Nothing you can do about that. She'll just have to pass away.

    I've always disliked Schumer.
     
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  4. Trotsky Banned Banned

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    I think anyone with a modicum of sense or knowledge of US congressional history would agree. So, not you.
     
  5. Trotsky Banned Banned

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    The scope of Democratic losses can be best reflected in this thread, where the complete unleashing of GOP gerrymandering and corruption is analyzed.


     
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  6. lilelvis Black Belt Platinum Member

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    Start a go fund me trots... I’m good for a bag of ice..
     
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  7. Fedorgasm Gold Belt

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    Yeah I'm an independent and so I get to enjoy an impartial view, and I have to say that Democrats really fucked up this election.

    They could have won a landslide if they weren't so stupid. Trump really hurt himself in those debates and the dems failed to take advantage.
     
  8. 12ga. Silver Belt

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    You don't understand anything abt democrats - Bernie and aoc are Sheepdogs -did they withhold or threaten anything - nope said go vote for racist, warmongering corrupt Biden and his slavery cop side kick - The Democratic party is where progressivism goes to die.

    Glen Ford over at Black Agenda report goes as far as to call them "the more effective evil"
     
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  9. Mcountry Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    I'm not commenting on shit until @skysolo and @BEER tell me who the good dems are, and the charlatans.
     
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    Maybe defunding the police wasn't actually that popular
     
  12. blaseblah Steel Belt

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    Good luck with that. Pelosi got 80% of the vote.
     
  13. Bamboozled Silver Belt

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    Didn't read and probably disagree with a lot of your post but I agree 100% of getting rid of chuck and nancy
     
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    I’m sure more leftism is what democrats need...
     
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    communists need to be jail-infused
     
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    I totally wood.
     
  17. MoparOrNoCar Red Belt

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    Biggest lesson for democrats is to stop with the propaganda, stop making up stuff like systemic racism out of thin air, stop burning and looting major cities, stop calling people racist who don't vote left and stop trying to cancel everyone that doesn't agree with your opinion.

    That would be a pretty good step in the right direction.
     
  18. Mr Holmes You talking money, need a hearing aid

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    I'll sign off on this. They can take schiff with them as well.
     
  19. PolishHeadlock2 Absolutley Haram Platinum Member

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    Trump is gone they did the right thing backing Biden in the general.

    But now they should go after Pelosi and Schumer for underperforming.
     
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  20. Carol Baskin's ex-Husband Definitely not in Costa Rica.... Yellow Card

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    I agree with alot of democratic/liberal/whatever you want to call it ideals, but what you mentioned is exactly what put me off over these last four years (I'm almost 40 and this was the first year I've ever voted Republican for anything). There's alot of people that are now adults that grew up with a false sense of ego, self, and their place in the world, and as a result they're angry that reality doesn't align with the ideal in their heads. Their mind won't come to grips with the reality of confronting their own flaws, failures, and poor choices so they will latch on to an excuse given to them to absolve themselves of culpability and blame others. It's a real simple play on people's egos that the left seems to have mastered, and it will enable them to gain further control as this phenomenon increases with each new crop of adults.
     

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