Hi I'm new to this forum but I would like to ask regarding the question on top. I know that its better to train with a real life partner etc but I'm really just interested in the quality comparison between these dummies. The gauge of quality I'm interested in. It would be good if someone can give a comparison of their quality and perhaps answer these gauge below. 1) Can actually hold your weight (standing) - for say a flying arm bar? 2) Can hold partially some leaning weight (standing) - for say step up to a flying knee, or 1 hand on the wrist 1 hand on the elbow leverage pressure (ikkyou - aikido) 3) Can stand on its own - for throws without it leaning on support 4) Can perform aikido fine throws on the extremities rather than trunk (judo) like kote gaeshi reverse wrist throw 5) Can stretch out limbs in a certain stance, like say hands out forward. 6) Which is better for throwing, which for grappling, why? Could the bubba dummy be used for throws anyways? 7) Is bubba dummy long lasting? Thanx there!! really would appreciate the answers or otherwise a comparison of the 2 - price asides.