Dear sherdog, So, I have a question. I've had two different black belts show me two different ways to finish the bicep slicer (for a point of reference, let's just say from the armbar defense where they hold on for dear life). The first blackbelt told me to have the blade of my forearm pointing into their elbow crease, and to try and pull my wrist through their elbow while crushing their wrist down with my leg. The other black belt told me to have the blade of my forearm pointing into their bicep and forearm, and to crush down (no pulling). Now, which one of these do you guys use? Why? Is either one more likely to break my opponents arm? Is one "safer" than the other? Sometimes when I do the latter, with my forearm blade vertical, it hurts me too (I broke my arm when I was a kid, never really been 100%). So I'll switch to the horizontal forearm, but that doesn't feel as powerful. Finally, I've seen a lot of bicep slicer finishes where you use your arms entirely (say, from a failed kimura). And while this may hurt like crap, is there an actual possibility of breaking the bone with this arm only configuration as compared to the leg+arm way? Love, bagelgod P.S. Anatomy nerds are encouraged to speak up.