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seriously, that is the reason, though. no need for any more argument, really. the bicep slicer was employed on a Rickson fighter who refused to tap. He ended up breaking his arm and the move was then banned.
You could say the same about a regular old armbar, too. Some idiots think they can take the pain, but instead they break or pop their arm. They don't ban the armbar though.
Its politics because Rickson is probably the only person who could influence the rule book in this way. Rickson's fighter could not compete in his MMA match as a result of his broken arm. The fighter had plenty of time to tap, but refused to submit. It is his own fault., IMO. No need to ban the move. meh... my 2
I happen to love both these moves so Id like to see them allowed. However, they can cause some serious damage!!
If you chose to compete you should understand when to tap out or suffer the consequences. Just my humble opinion!
Its easy to say "when you feel pain tap." How many of you who want these moves have competed and compete regularly?
Its much harder to gauge pain in a competition. Ive been armbarred before and I tapped not because it hurt but because I felt my arm pop. It was sore as hell later but during the competition you dont really feel the pain. Lots of stupid people (and even smart ones) will get caught in a biceps slicer, for example when passing the guard, and even if they are in pain they will think "If I just hold on I'll get the points for the pass." The guy on the bottom will crank, the guy on top wont tap, and bad things will happen.
I dont think its harder to gauge pain...I think its harder to tap bc of ego and competitive spirit. I was in a straight ankel lock yesterday in the tourney and it hurt but I knew he wasnt going to pop it....if I felt any real danger I would have tapped and lived to compete another day.
I happen to think ALL subs should be legal for every division. If a white belt is good enough to set up and finish a heel hook than god bless! It should be the responsibility of both the student and the teacher to learn ALL techniques before entering a competition! Again, just my humble opinion!